Tuesday, January 13, 2009

Bishop Robinson, Joel Connelly, Pastor Rick Warren and the Church

Seattle PI For Sale. The Seattle PI's parent company, the Hearst Corp., announced Friday that it has put the Seattle PI up for sale and will stop publishing unless someone buys the paper in 60 days. The reason? Falling revenue. Governor Gregoire said she is in shock...didn't see it coming.
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Bishop Robinson, Joel Connelly, Pastor Rick Warren and the Church

Bishop V. Gene Robinson, an openly gay Episcopal Bishop and a strong advocate for homosexuals, is in Seattle this week. He spoke at St. Marks Cathedral and Town Hall Seattle yesterday and will be speaking at St. Andrews Episcopal tonight.

His message? "Civil Rights in the 21st Century: Why Religion Matters."

Joel Connelly, in his Seattle PI column says that, "Robinson is a believer in both the divinity and humanity of Christ, the Resurrection, the Nicene Creed and the Holy Trinity."

That's good.

Connelly quotes Robinson as saying of his lectures, "I remind them that there is a difference between God and the church. God never gets it wrong. The church often takes a long time to get it right."

Okay.

However, when you follow Robinson's conclusions, you find that sometimes people also get it wrong---particularly when it involves their personal lifestyle.

Connelly says Robinson said, "I believe in my heart that the church got it wrong about homosexuality."

He says, according to Connelly, "Some how through the grace of God, we need to find our unity at the altar rail in our love of Christ. Time will tell if we are a model for the world or not."

But what are we to model? While unity is certainly a biblical principle, are we to forsake the explicit teaching which forbids homosexual relations in preference to unity?

Does Bishop Robinson believe the Bible to be the Word of God? And if not, how then, would God speak to His people and His church?

If Robinson believes the Bible to be God's Word, how does he justify what Scripture calls an abomination? If he does not believe the Bible to be God's Word, how then can we know the truth?

Is truth relative or merely experiential?

He seems to suggest that unity is the ultimate test of Christianity, and unity, as tolerance, can only be authenticated by affirming homosexuality as normal and biblical.

So those who do not affirm and embrace homosexuality are creating dis-unity in the church and do not model Christ's love.

And speaking of love---Robinson says Barack Obama made a bad move by inviting Pastor Rick Warren to give the invocation at the inauguration.

Why?

"On the issue of homosexuality," Robinson says, "he [Warren] has perpetuated lies about the gay, lesbian and bi-sexual community."

According to Bishop Robinson, Rick Warren is a liar.

Disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle seems to always define love, tolerance and open mindedness. If you embrace their lifestyle, you are modeling Christ's love. If you reject it on the basis of biblical teaching, you are bigoted, hateful and intolerant.

The Associated Press is reporting that Bishop Robinson has now been invited to offer a prayer at the Lincoln Memorial sometime during the inauguration festivities. They say both Obama and Biden are expected to be present.

Robinson says he will not use the Bible. He says while it is a holy and sacred text to him, it is not for all Americans.

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Gary Randall
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Faith & Freedom

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9 comments:

  1. Interesting how tolerant gay activists are. They get the names and employers of those who supported Prop 8 in California and seek revenge against them and their employers.

    We have to tolerate them but they sure don't return the favor.

    PRS in Federal Way

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  2. We've got to raise the standard
    don't we, lest America be so
    deceived that anything looks good.

    Only by looking unto Jesus will
    America be saved.

    I wonder if Jesus ate with homosexuals. If he did it was only
    to win them to the kingdom, not to
    endorse or encourage what they do
    sexually, nor would he eat with them to get elected or accepted by
    people.

    He chose the cross instead.

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  3. Be it right or wrong that Warren is praying at the inauguration, I just pray and trust that he will have the strength and power of the Holy Spirit upon him to truly pray for this upcoming term. I mean truly pray. Not the prayer that America has come to expect (love, joy, peace, blessing - even when we do nothing to warrant God's blessing), but a prayer that comes from the throne room of God. We just need to pray that Pastor Warren will have the fortitude to stand strong and not worry about what the Robinsons of the world will say later.

    Bearing His torch
    Pastor Eldon Kelley
    Northport WA

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  4. PRS,

    You must have missed the actions of the official Yes on 8 campaign, not bloggers or individuals acting on their own, but the official campaign. They sent letters to donors to No on 8 before the election demanding an equal donation to their cause or they would be boycotted and demonstrated against (aka seek revenge). So the things you accuse 'gay activists' of are the very things done by the Christianists behind Prop H8!

    Jeff in Bellevue

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  5. No wonder the Episcopal church is splitting. If this guy rrepresents the dissenters, I would leave the church too. This is nuts.

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  6. " Governor Gregoire said she is in shock...didn't see it coming."

    And Dino Rossi claimed he knew it was going to happen, but no one was listening to his ridiculous claims, who cares what a two time loser thinks?

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  7. A point many are forgetting is 70% of blacks voted against prop 8, but we don't see gays rioting, and attacking old ladies in black neighborhoods now do we?

    skidrowfuzzy

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  8. The Bible says we are to love one another and to preach the gospel. It doesn't say to condone homosexuality: It says it is an abomination. Therefore, to be as plain as can be, Love thy neighbor but don't accept his sins...try to straighten him out by teaching right from wrong according to scripture. AND HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG, brother.

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  9. The Bible says we are to love one another and to teach the gospel. The Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Therefore, to make things clear: We are to love our neighbors but not condone their sins. We are supposed to teach them right from wrong, lovingly and according to scripture. So, HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG, brother, but I will accept you without the sins.I DON'T have to condone homosexuality.

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