Thursday, March 19, 2009

Obama Supports Elevating Homosexuality

"Stand Up For Marriage Rally" today at the Capitol in Olympia. 12 noon to 1 PM.
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Candidate Obama promised the homosexual lobby that if elected, he would work to completely repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).

When asked earlier this week if the President would keep that promise, Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, assured the press he would. In fact, openly gay Rep. Tammy Baldwin D-Wis., plans to introduce a bill that will expand gay benefits and will likely be helpful to Obama as he starts his assault on marriage.

Yesterday we were told that President Obama and others in the United Nations have elevated homosexuality to a new level.

Austin Ruse, president of the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute said Obama actually signed a press release that had been drafted previously by the French. The French had expected him to sign because they know he supports the homosexual agenda, and he did.

Ruse says the press release encourages, "The acceptance of gender identity and sexual orientation as a category---that will stand along side race, religion and other widely accepted categories of non-discrimination."

Ruse said for a brief moment last week at the UN, the Obama administration endorsed a document titled, "The International Guidelines On HIV/AIDS" which calls for criminal penalties for those who criticize homosexuality.

We are grateful for the last minute push back by the Obama team, but is this the future?

Stand strong. Be vigilant.

God bless you.

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Gary Randall
President
Faith & Freedom

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15 comments:

  1. see you in Olympia.

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  2. Well have fun. I've decided not to go done and truly support marriage - this is your field trip and I don't want to spoil it for you though I hear there will be others.

    Of course the legislation you protesting is a domestic partnership bill, not a the marriage contract, and you are in the uncomfortable position of saying you don't want people with same gender spouses to be recognized by the state that is supposed to serve all citizens equally, but that's nothing new.

    Have fun, take pictures and video and post them on a free flickr.com account - you should have a good ol' self-righteous time. Oh particularly get pictures of the signs - I love the signs ;)

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  3. I am so glad Obama has the strength of character to respect all of humanity even they are gay. God bless him!

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  4. Faith & Freedom, but apparently freedom is reserved for those who choose to believe as you.

    None of us are free unless all of us are free!

    There are so many problems that good people should be focused on, and you choose to waste a lot of time and other people's money on this.

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  5. 9:28 AM,

    Don't you see? You have to share their Faith to be considered worthy of Freedom!

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  6. LOL.. some people have nothing else better to do other than to promote hate and segregation.

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  7. The bill would "be helpful to Obama as he starts his assault on marriage" ?

    We're still waiting for you to demonstrate any actual effect on traditional marriage.

    Or is it simply that you wouldn't value your own marriage as much if you knew gays could have the same thing. I think that is actually the truth and it's very pathetic.

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  8. I can't believe how self-righteous you people are when what you're trying to fight and destroy is LOVE.

    I don't understand how you don't see it.

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  9. "Oh particularly get pictures of the signs - I love the signs ;)'

    Oshtur eve been to a gay parade ? Talk about signs , but I love the costumes myself . 0'}


    "None of us are free unless all of us are free!"

    So lets see , a marriage liscense is a mark of freedom ? Besides this is not marrage , so what freedom are you talking about ? A little freedom , or just more freedom for a selected group based on polititics and demonization. And yes some soncerity and compassion also . Interesting your comments because marriages are on the decline . Out of wedlock births are up ,is that a good sign of freedom for ya ?

    Mick

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  10. Mick,

    a marriage liscense is a mark of freedom?
    Being able to license a marriage as other married couples do is.

    Besides this is not marrage , so what freedom are you talking about?
    No no, it is still a marriage regardless of the gender of the spouse. The state has just said there must be two contracts to cover all citizens since the first is discriminatory. Spouses are still husbands and wives, regardless the gender of the other spouse and they are all marriages whether they can license the contract titled 'marriage' or not.

    A little freedom , or just more freedom for a selected group based on polititics and demonization.
    You are talking about the opposite gender couples, right? The ones who think they can own the word 'marriage' by limiting access to the contract of the same name. Silly, marriage is a natural state, the government no more makes a person married than it does make people tall or smart.

    Interesting your comments because marriages are on the decline . Out of wedlock births are up ,is that a good sign of freedom for ya?
    In the actual report we see that the increase is marginal across the all ages but with a bump in the 25-39 year range. Noticeably missing is any sort of follow up on how many of these were 'single parent' vs '2 parent' births. In Norway and Sweden studies that showed an increase in out of wedlock births found that many of these children were born into 2 parent families and the parents license the civic contract soon after the birth of the child - they just had no need for the civil contract before there were children in the family.

    Interesting:

    The report uses 2006 data, which was the most recent available, and estimates that 18% of teen girls nationwide will become teen mothers. States levels vary from 8% to 30%, but in nine states, mostly in the South and Southwest, 25% or more are projected to have a child before age 20. The estimate was less than 10% in three states, New Hampshire, Vermont and Massachusetts

    Considering this and other distribution qualities of the out-of-wedlock births I would suggest it is not a lack of religion fueling this trend. And it would seem that allowing some form of marriage equality actually reduces the chances of out-of-wedlock births, eh? :)

    (how could I resist?)

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  11. a marriage liscense is a mark of freedom?
    "Being able to license a marriage as other married couples do is."

    Then the proponents are only looking to increase freedom for "some" based on their own moral code . Arguements used to promote gay couples is inclusionary to a small group just gays . I
    I admit and actually defend why I support hetro marriage . Gay supporters do not explain why they are exclusionary . At least I have yet to read one explaining why they are better and deserve freedom and others do not based on your concept that marriage is freedom . . The only time I hear the use of other groups being allowed "freedom" is when it is used by the Western ivilization Pro Marriage side who uses other groups as a negative fear tactic . as if those groups will have anything to do with who you are married to ?

    Besides this is not marrage , so what freedom are you talking about?
    "No no, it is still a marriage regardless of the gender of the spouse. The state has just said there must be two contracts to cover all citizens since the first is discriminatory. Spouses are still husbands and wives, regardless the gender of the other spouse and they are all marriages whether they can license the contract titled 'marriage' or not."

    Lost me on this one . Gay marriage is still discriminatory , so now we have one discrimintory form of marriage , that is supported by another form of discriminatory marriage "for gays only" . I guess at ths rate we will get there , but don't expect any of other freedoms to be worth a hoot when we get there if you use this logic to base what freedom means.

    A little freedom , or just more freedom for a selected group based on polititics and demonization.
    "You are talking about the opposite gender couples, right? The ones who think they can own the word 'marriage' by limiting access to the contract of the same name. Silly, marriage is a natural state, the government no more makes a person married than it does make people tall or smart."

    Marriage is a natural state ? According to who , Darwin , liberals, Woody Allen ? I have been married 20 years , natural ? It is natural to love when your mate is being unlovable ? When you are being unlovable to receive love . Marriage is commitment , and I believe you know that .
    But yeah , having a lovable mate can make it natural ,
    Marriage to me is not owned by hetrosexuals . Just like the Pharisees of Bibical times people used religious scripture as means of control . I see that much here I admit . But I noticed you supported the wing nut who spews out hatred because he sides with your over all view . So I really don't see your tactics much different .

    Bibical Laws Given to man were not to have men rule men , but keep him safe . Giving scripture to condemn another human being I find offensive, but also people mocking the Word of God I also do . Which I agree is my problem . But Marriage being between a man and a woman is in my opinion the best way to keep all of us safer , having that standard is important .


    Interesting your comments because marriages are on the decline . Out of wedlock births are up ,is that a good sign of freedom for ya?
    "In the actual report we see that the increase is marginal across the all ages but with a bump in the 25-39 year range. Noticeably missing is any sort of follow up on how many of these were 'single parent' vs '2 parent' births. "

    Many people I believe are seeing marriage as un important in the way previous generations have , Thus the arguement that gay marriage will cause a decrease in marriage . I disagree with that , open for any views though , I see it as gay marriage becoming more feasible because our culture thinks marriage is not as important to child rearing and such . Not that gay marriage is causing it as some of the religious political viewpoints suggest.



    "Considering this and other distribution qualities of the out-of-wedlock births I would suggest it is not a lack of religion fueling this trend. And it would seem that allowing some form of marriage equality actually reduces the chances of out-of-wedlock births, eh? :)"

    Ha . I knew you supported abstinence "in a way" . Might though even be a slant towards religion promoting the statistics though ? , why so many single moms choosing life . That could be the case in some cases ,but to your speculation and the liberal view that the statistics of 40 percent out of wedlock births is not a telling statistic, it tells us that 40 percent of the babies born two years ago had two people not willing to be legally their Momand Dad . For what ever reason is a telling statistic . You can't get specfics because their are too many reasons . All of them based primarily in selfishness or lousy planning by the parents .

    The statistics though in Hispanic and African American homes are more telling . And social scientists all told us these were indicators that the majority population would follow and it has , 25 percent of white Moms are single . Those minority house holds statistically are way over the average in povery levels . Like 75 percent for blacks , 51 I believe for Hispanics. Thus the Moms are giving births to children into poverty regardless of abortion choices. . To me this repudiates the abortion mantra that every child be wanted . it tells me we have a culture that says I want my baby today , I want to have one today , no I will get it aborted , or I wish I did not have my baby its too hard of work doing it alone . We live for today in this culture , we do not plan for tomorrow or learn by yesterday. Its the culture of we can get away with it .

    Mick

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  12. "And it would seem that allowing some form of marriage equality actually reduces the chances of out-of-wedlock births, eh? :)"

    Banning the sale of beer would do the same thing . 0'}

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  13. Then the proponents are only looking to increase freedom for "some" based on their own moral code .
    No, but you are not the first who seems to make this odd 'leap' in this argument. You seem to think it is very convincing but it isn't to me, to me its so obviously erroneous I am perplexed as to why you and others bring it up.

    This is about equal rights for all citizens - instead of just some citizens being allowed to marry a certain gender its about all citizens being able to. It gives every citizen the same rights and lets them decide which gender their spouse needs to be. You know, rights to freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness, that stuff?

    Marriage is a natural state ?
    Yes it is, it comes 'naturally' more to some than to others but yes it is. That's why I like Thomas Jefferson's Deism and its 'Nature's God' because as our understanding of nature grows so does the understanding of how we should be.

    Just 2 months or so ago there was a study that showed that over 10% of married couples stay in the same type of romantic 'bliss' love with their spouse for decades. We can do PET scans now, we see their brains activate like they were still in that Romeo and Juliet love state of our youth. And they have marked more long term states of pair-bonding too. Most people can marry, and yes some people stop being married. Learning to distinguish the ones that are just going through a rough patch and those that really should part should be an area of study.

    Similarly we have the study that shows that gay men's brains are really reacting, down at the brain stem subconscious level, to male sexual pheromones the way heterosexual women's brains react, i.e. we know now that at least for some, being gay is not a choice by any reasonable use of the word, and that if you did the 'bliss' study on a group of gay couples I'm sure you would find the same long term reaction in some. That's what's changed, that's what's different - we now know that being gay is just a guy reacting to sexual attraction cueing like heterosexual women do. And why? Well as I have pointed out every man has all the genes of a woman, the base human model is female and men are a modification of that. Some get the full package modification, some get a less, and we are also learning that many of the sexual attraction neurological wiring changes happen late in brain development and the male neurons are overlays over the already existing female response ones. It doesn't take radical thinking to see that if the overlay process wasn't the strongest, that if any of a dozen environmental inhibiting issues show up, the female responses might not be overridden and that will be their sexual orientation for the rest of their life.

    Which takes me back to the first response and the tangents people throw out about 'next we will be marry children or dogs, or aliens or whatever'. No this is about two citizens brains reacting the exact same way to sexual cuing but one is told its ok because they are of one gender and the other told its not because they're of another. This isn't about children to whom NOONE brains are supposed to be reacting, OR YOUR DOG, or any of the other stuff. Again, its about citizens being allowed to react the exact same way to the exact same thing regardless of their gender.

    Well to reply to every point in your note would be too long, I will seriously point out that the the rise in the recent report is marginal, only 1.7% increase overall from the previous year. The reason those states have such a low out of wedlock birth rate is seriously because they are so caucasian - hispanics and black mothers made up the vast majority of all the out of wedlock births, both groups with high levels of religiosity I might add, but more importantly 2 groups that are generally poor. Abstinence education doesn't work - we are a disaster when it comes to teen births compared to the rest of the industrialized world and when you look the primary difference is they are open and talk about sex with their kids. No secrets, no babies brought by a stork past the age of santa claus - just 'you have a baby sister coming because mom and dad had sex.' It is dealing with the issue of teen age sex and being as open and nonchalant as talking about drinking, pot, and tobacco from BEFORE they need worry about these things that will turn this around. As long as its this 'big taboo' no ones going to talk reasonably about it, kids will deal with it as kids rather than as adults, and you are going to have teen babies.

    Marriage being between a man and a woman is in my opinion the best way to keep all of us safer , having that standard is important .
    Sounds like a convenient assumption to me that sort of ignores everything else. If two people being married is great why does it matter their gender combination if the biological roots are the same, the benefits to the married couple are the same, the economic benefits to society are the same, and the societal benefits in general are the same?

    Picking the answer you want and ignoring everything else to the contrary probably isn't what anyone's god wanted of them.

    PS: The only media coverage of the rally yesterday was the Oregon Public Broadcast news? Yeah 400 wasn't a huge turnout but even the local paper, The Olympian, didn't cover the event? Ouch.

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  14. On Marriage Rights being extended only to a the category of homosexuals

    "You seem to think it is very "convincing but it isn't to me, to me its so obviously erroneous I am perplexed as to why you and others bring it up."

    Because it shows the lack of sincerity and utter selfishness of the gay marriage issue as an equal right issue . I am not sure why you post here if you can't understand the issues. You think gays are the only group that has brains , feel love and want marriage benefits. get out more often , go to the library .

    "No this is about two citizens brains reacting the exact same way to sexual cuing but one is told its ok because they are of one gender and the other told its not because they're of another."

    Well this is a giant leap for you , actually admiting the other side has a brain . But you still don't get it , brain functions work on other groups of people wanting to be married , go back to the library , don't pass go , do not collect 200 dollars . Is it Because it is not socially acceptable or because you don't think those people have brain functions worthy of Lord Vishtur does not mean they don't deserve freedom . Or you just pick who gets freedom based on public opinion or political party preference ? Why people think its imprtant , because the real discriminators are those who claim it , then discrimianate to gain an advantage over others while using venom on another group as a means of gaining support to do it .


    "Marriage being between a man and a woman is in my opinion the best way to keep all of us safer , having that standard is important .
    "Sounds like a convenient assumption to me that sort of ignores everything else."

    What a great come back . LOL

    Actually it takes in everything else , which your concept doesn't . The economical benefits were not meant for the parents , they were meant to help with the off spring . I guess you feel your brain functions can't be responsible for your body non marriage functions .
    What a conveneient forgetfull aspect from the other view.





    "Picking the answer you want and ignoring everything else to the contrary probably isn't what anyone's god wanted of them."

    Whom back to the same old tactics . Your knowledge of God and your description of people dedicated to Him , Regardless of their views on this matter have a small consequence . Its meaningless. God is soverign. Regardless how we view this issue , its our hearts . Ehh in your case your brain is what God is concerned about .

    "PS: The only media coverage of the rally yesterday was the Oregon Public Broadcast news? "

    LOL the only reason I knew about it was from here and one other source . In fact the more I heard the comments from some of the people here who seem to come up with a hundreds of different ways to say your HATEFULL .

    Well thanks , at least your tactics are somewhat different , the old brain wave marriage tactic . ROFL

    You gotta watch MILK , Gary is doing the same thing with his respect for the First Amendment IMO.
    That fella was a politcal genius the LB of gays , did the same thing to his opponents , reeled him in then used their hate to unite his cause . . Your just Anneta sin "g"ing a different song but using the same intolerant tune . Gary needs no crowds , he got you babe

    Ouch back at ya

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  15. Because it shows the lack of sincerity and utter selfishness of the gay marriage issue as an equal right issue.

    See your very sentence is erroneous - this is about marriage equality, not 'gay marriage'. Its about removing sexual orientation entirely from the picture - allowing all citizens to have a spouse as a qualified adult man or women instead of just some citizens having that right as it is now.

    Please point out what other groups are there other than citizens that have male or female spouses? What are these other ignored groups that marry other than men and women you think exist?

    The economical benefits were not meant for the parents , they were meant to help with the off spring.
    Oh please! First: There is no breeding requirement or presumption in the civil contract of marriage. Second: only 46% of married households are raising children, 33% of lesbian households, 21% of gay households (who have a great % of stay at home parents than any other group!) and note the same gender ones are doing so largely without the support of a civil contract.

    So even if you are right you are making an argument FOR marriage equality.

    (I will leave you to all the sarcasm and ad hominem, you're so good at it.)

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