Tuesday, October 13, 2009

"Hey Obama, let Mama marry Mama"

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I received this most interesting and insightful email yesterday:

"We went to this great rally against state support of homosexual addiction and sin. (Don't forget: Homosexual acts, and abortion, were felonies in this state only forty years ago.) The atmosphere was like a high school football pep rally! It was fun! Most there were young adults who were well-dressed, polite, and cheerful. But they also didn't take any disrespect from the very few homosexual supporters who strayed into our gauntlet along the Lynnwood streets. We saw no police during our three hours there. The weather was great. Notably absent were many local pastors from large churches, which is understandable given the heights of the ivory towers they'd have to descend. The Russian-Americans are great citizens. They know what is at stake here. They've slid down the slippery slope into dictatorship, and won't do it again. Are you sliding?"

"Reach out to your "sliding" friends and help them get on board."

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"Hey Obama, let Mama marry Mama"

The assault on marriage continued on the grounds of the capitol in Washington DC this past Sunday, as it did in the streets of Washington State.

Thousands marched in DC chanting, "Hey Obama, let Mama marry Mama." Others screamed, "We're out, we're proud, we won't back down."

Why would someone be "proud" of their sexual behavior? Why would one assume that the well deserved and long overdue civil rights afforded to African Americans would be equal to that demanded by homosexuals on the basis of their sexual inclination?

Is there a reason to be proud of one's sexual behavior? There is an interesting article that appeared a while back in, of all places, the Duke University daily newspaper asking these same questions.

The Chronicle article, "I Don't Hate Gays (and neither does God) says, " 'Gay pride' like 'white pride' is a mockery of real pride." The writer believes pride must be based on merit---achievement, not inclinations or behaviors.

He says, "Rather than seeking respect on account of one's merits, it demands respect on account of one's sexual lifestyle. This is simple arrogance. It says that we cannot judge the actions of others, but demands that we respect them. No one has any right to place that puerile demand on you, because these are precisely the judgements required to lead a moral life."

He also says, "As a human being, you have every obligation to judge right from wrong, and every right to judge gay "sex" wrong."

The article continues--"To treat a homosexual union as marriage---even just in terms of rights and privileges---is to fake equality between two fundamentally unequal relationships. It would demand that we remain utterly indiscriminate and utterly ignorant of the reasons why the rights and privileges of marriage exist."

This is, of course, precisely what Senator Ed Murray, Representative Jamie Pederson and other sponsors of SB 5688 are demanding of the public.

It is a deceptive bill. They confused and convinced a majority of your elected officials in the Legislature to vote for the deception, but will they fool the public?

We shall see.

The writer ponders the question of same-sex marriage or the "everything but marriage" equivalent. And concludes, "Proponents of gay marriage disregard thousands of years of cultural and legal development on a whim, opening the door wide to other disasters, like polygamy. This is something our society, the rebellious child of human industry that it is, despite its lack of education and decency, and thinking itself too enlightened to bother with the wisdom of the past, might just be willing to do. But it may not and will not command our respect."

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Gary Randall
President
Faith & Freedom

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9 comments:

  1. Mr. Randall I respectfully disagree with your views and will be voting yes for Ref. 71. It saddens me deeply that professing Christians such as yourself are incapable of loving others as you claim to love Christ and his teachings. To equate allowing the approval of domestic partnership rights and privileges (regardless of sexual orientation) to permitting murder or even put such things on the same moral ground is not only poor theology, but spreads fear and hate. This is not consistent with the message of Christ who lived and blessed all the "sinners" he came in contact with.

    If God is love, and you profess to know God, you would be finding respectful and loving ways to give equal rights to all who chose to commit themselves to a consensual monogamous relationship. Not further provoking bigotry and hatred. I'm not sure what it is you are afraid of but I pray for you that the Spirit of the Lord will deliver you and you will find peace and will be able to love all of God's children how he created them, for He created all things in heaven and earth, including those who are Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender.

    Let freedom and justice reign for all. Peace to You.

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  2. Gary says:
    (Don't forget: Homosexual acts, and abortion, were felonies in this state only forty years ago.)

    I remind Gary and any other who names the name of Christ

    Christianity and the worship of Jesus was a capital offense and still is a capital offense in many parts of the world. This specious and deceptive reasoning is certainly far below the dignity of the call of Christ. Rather Jesus has called us to lift up His name, reach out to the world and point them to him rather than pouring out the poisen of deceipt for our own humanistic religious immoral ethics.

    By doing so, we might save some and not, as is being down now with such twisted statement, degrading the name of Christ before the world.

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  3. Jeanette and Sean,
    I am afraid you have become so "open minded" that your brains have accidentally fallen out.
    this bit about a "consensual monogamous relationship" is not marriage. Marriage is 1 man and 1 woman joined before God in a covenant relationship for life. This is the only union approved by God, whether you like it or not. The Bible is very clear about this.

    If you are going to talk about how loving and accepting Jesus was (and IS), you also have to include that he is also God and he is Holy. The intent of being accepting is to bring the lost to him, so that they may find forgiveness and restore a right relationship with him and not be condemned
    "for Jesus did not come into the world to condemn the world but so that through him the world might be saved"

    But if we lose all sense of discernment for what is right and holy behavior or what is wrong or sinful behavior, we have no need to be saved because ... well we didn't do anything wrong!

    Remember, God also said, "Be Holy for I am holy."

    He also never endorsed fornication, or sex outside of marriage, and that is exactly what is happening between homosexuals.

    In his conversation with the adulteress, he forgave her, asking, "woman, where are your accusers now?"

    "They have gone," she replied, "There is no one here to condemn me."

    "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus replied.

    But never forget that he also ended this conversation with these important words...
    "Go, and sin no more."

    The liberal minded like to forget that there are behaviors that honor God, and those that do not honor God. Just because we have the blood of Christ to cover or atone for our bad behavior is NO REASON to continue doing it! That is like spitting into the face of Christ, who died a torturous, bloody and painful death for us scumbags.

    Wake up and have a little respect and gratitude for the one who gave his life to save your sorry soul.

    And by all means, stop lecturing Gary for living a life that shows his love and respect for God's word. At least he is pursuing righteousness and not muddying up the water with a bunch of ridiculous psychobabble.

    Yes, God forgives. So do I and so should we all. But let us never confuse ourselves by accepting sin in order to mimic Christ. He accepted the sinner and not the sin, but did not confuse the two. Nor did he forget what is right and what is just plain wrong.

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  4. I'm a straight male proud of my sexual behavior....and I feel like this main article feeds the argument that religion encourages a shame based culture around sexual intimacy.

    I don't have a problem with a gay person being proud of their sexual behavior because I am proud of my sexual behavior....not ashamed of it.

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  5. As someone who is pro-family, I am going to vote to let Mama domestic partnerize Mama. And hopefully one day Mama can marry Mama, because that's what is going to best help that family and that child.

    And I'm proud of those who have gay pride just as I'm proud of those who had black pride, who weren't backed down and told to be ashamed of what they ARE.

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  6. JND,

    With all due respect, your ignorance is showing. What Gary is calling "marriage" by the State has nothing to do with genuine marriage - which is before God alone. "Marriage" via the state is not marriage at all - it is simply a partnership contract with a cute name and a few rules - that is why you need to go before a judge to dissolve

    Marriage is 1 man and 1 woman joined before God in a covenant relationship for life.

    Here is the other area you are ignorant it - the civic sphere is NOT the Kingdom of God. You are oppressing citizens of the civic sphere with your religion - Jesus specifically taught us NOT to do that. As Christians we do not have the right nor the call to be morality police (as Gary is proclaiming himself to be) EXCEPT IN THE CHURCH ALONE.

    When you decide to follow Christ - you give up your right to be a morality police to world. It is called "denying yourself".

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  7. Jeanette, it's so sad reading your words, and pray that someday you will come to a better understanding-no judgement here, just consern, just as much for the gay commuinity--someday---I pray discernment may come sooner than later for you and 'them'! Yes, God loves us all, but, we need to heed to His ways--not ours-and He has quoted quite specifically when it comes to the distorted view of men and women relationships!

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  8. Actually, we are supposed to follow God's laws AND man's laws. And what's so sad reading her comments? My guess is you think that somewhere in God's laws he actually says to conform man's laws to his... well he doesn't.

    There is nothing wrong with the civic sphere recognizing different things as legal than your religion allows, God will not judge you for what other people do. God will not judge you if another couple gets married in a way He doesn't find acceptable. And He won't judge you if another couple gets divorced (which is REALLY against God's word).

    We are not supposed to obey God because it's what man told us to do, and it's incredibly sad you think it's your responsibility to do just that.

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  9. Anon 9:45

    I sorry to say Anon but I hear nothing but judgement and arrogance in your words - you have are simply degrading and advocating hurting those who are different in the name of your religion (which is very differen than Jesus' religion - whom I happen to know personally).

    I am praying for you that the Lord will open your eyes to His words and set you free from your desire to oppress those who are outside of the Kingdom.

    Sincerely,
    Jeanette

    PS If you were ever honestly willing to have a genuine dialogue and pray, I would be willing to do so.

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