Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Homosexual Activists Very Active

Focus on the Family is reporting that one year after the Connecticut Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage, half of all homosexual couples who have "married" there are from out of state or out of the country.

Focus is also reporting that homosexual activists in Maine are advocating that people report the churches that supported the campaign to preserve natural marriage and report them to the IRS requesting their tax exempt status be revoked.

The Maine Marriage Equality website is providing links to forms for filing complaints against churches that supported marriage. The site also provides addresses and fax numbers to assist in filing the complaint.

I have linked their website so you can see their attack on churches and read a letter from the IRS responding to a complaint filed by Adam Flanders of Belfast Maine against the Searsport Full Gospel Church.

What does this mean to us?

First, the matter in Connecticut. While each state has it's own organized assault on marriage, there is clearly a national and international effort that is working in sync with the state organizations.

Many are predicting that having won the R-71 campaign in Washington State, homosexual activists will wait several years to go for "the word" marriage. Senator Ed Murray has been telling the press he is not going to make a move in that direction for at least some time.

I don't believe they will exercise that kind of restraint. That is contrary to the nature of the homosexual movement. We'll see.

I am not surprised at the actions in Maine. That is consistent with the follow up actions in California and Florida.

Faith and Freedom has already experienced that kind of attack. The IRS found us to be in full compliance---exemplary. The process cost us several thousands of dollars. I'm certain that is part of their strategy.

We were both open and helpful toward the IRS during the audit process. In the end we received some very good counsel as to how to accomplish certain goals and remain in full compliance.

The pastors in Maine who supported the effort are not intimidated. Pastor Ken Graves, senior pastor at Calvary Chapel in Bangor, said they welcome the challenge. He said, "We know what the law is, what we're allowed to do, we've acted within the context of the law. We've consulted with the ethics commission here in Maine with regard to our political involvement."

Graves said, "We refuse to be held hostage and held silent with the threat of the removal of our tax-exempt status."

It's refreshing to hear those words from a pastor.

Alliance Defense Fund has offered free legal counsel to all churches who are attacked.

Graves said there are more important things than fretting about the IRS issue. Indeed. I pray God will give courage to pastors to take their rightful stand. For us, a battle is finished, but the war rages on.

The attempt to deconstruct marriage and "give them the name" will return to Washington State. I think it will be sooner than later.

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Gary Randall
President
Faith & Freedom

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16 comments:

  1. Churches and labor unions are nonprofit organizations.

    People who join churches do so voluntarily. People who join labor unions are frequently forced to do so or lose their job.

    People who donate to churches do so because they want to. Union members are forced to give money to the unions.
    Churches are required by law to keep out of politics while labor unions primary purpose (in my opinion) is political.

    Members of churches have freedom of speech, but are threatened with the loss of their tax exempt status is they engage in political discourse.

    The double standard must stop.

    My real question is; "Can the Democrats win an election on a level playing field?"

    We may never know, it has never been tried.

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  2. Marrying gays and killing babies isn't exactly supporting and defending the constitution against all enemies is it?

    That's not really what our constitution is about.

    I heard Kim Clement prophesy about America on TBN. He told of how the year 2010 is going to be the beginning of the end of debt.
    It seems to me that a federal or state goverment, if it's spending or it's budget is out of control, that it should consider indexing it's spending (including all wages and benefits of all government employees, including congressmen and such) to how the private sector (the economy) is doing.

    Sometimes having less of a paygrade helps us think more clearly. It seems to me that God is saving America for his glory and that having a recession is a part of that salvation.

    If you see an idea that has some good in it, please be a part of telling it again and again, to those in government and to the people on talk radio who are willing to walk through a few problems to seek a few solutions, for in so doing some wisdom of God may come to the front.

    We do have a nation to save, but what will it gain us if souls are not saved also? So let's remember to share the good news of Jesus also.

    Philippians 4:8
    Furthermore, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are worthy love, whatsoever things are of good report, if there be any virtue, of if there be any praise, think of these things. (1599 Geneva)

    All of the above is in the Bible. Let's find it and thank God for it. It may be that he is nearer to be found than when we first believed.

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  3. Philippians 4:8
    Furthermore, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are worthy love, whatsoever things are of good report, if there be any virtue, of if there be any praise, think of these things. (1599 Geneva)


    Thanks for the text - I sure wish we could focus on these things rather than on "homosexual activists", partisan politics, other people's sexuality, red-scare tactics and the like. It would really be refreshing to return to focusing on the person of Jesus Christ.

    Amen
    Patrick

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  4. That was quite an interesting link .
    Yes the Maine Equal Rights are quite the activist no holds barred political organization . but there was a picture of a the typical Churches Outside announce bill board saying to vote a certain way on the homosexual marriage .

    That is wrong, and republicans and democrats are always playing gottcha with the public disclosure commissions. So in that obne case the church was wrong legally .
    I do expect those who do not know God or claim to know him to act Godly and righteous. But I do expect that churches be held to a higher standard .

    Mick

    Mick

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  5. Patrick, are you unaware that there are churches and organizations who are focused on Bible studies and worship? Apparently you are unable or unwilling to understand that this organization and it's web site are committed to "advancing Judeo-Christian values and principles in the culture?" Their ministry is different than the local church or evangelistic out reach ministry. They are focused on educating people to how the culture is challenging those principles and trying to remove all things Christian from our culture. It has been said often on this web site that they are trying to inform people and inspire people to resist those things that would destroy our culture.
    I have am informed and inspired by what these people do. That's why I read the blogs every day. Why do you read them?

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  6. Gary:

    Unless you can persuade 100,000 Washingtonians to change their views on gay marriage, then the battle here is lost. They already approved gay marriage.

    Every time a child turns 18, that 100,000 margin goes up by 1. Every time an elderly person passes away, that margin goes up by 1. Every time a son or daughter comes out and demostrates to their family that gay relationships are not going to destroy the world, that number goes up by 50.

    When does that number go down? I can't for the life of me think of a single way.

    The battle is lost for Washington state, and soon for the rest of the country.

    Let's spend our money on something that will actually improve the world and let us leave a legacy we will be proud of, even in 25 years.

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  7. Regarding "Thanks for the text - I sure wish we could focus on these things rather than on "homosexual activists", partisan politics, other people's sexuality, red-scare tactics and the like. It would really be refreshing to return to focusing on the person of Jesus Christ."

    It would probably be a lot easier if it weren't thrust in our face on a daily basis. If the activists were content with living their lives, keeping their sexuality to themselves instead of making a political issue of it, and stop trying to force people to believe homosexuality is "normal and healthy," then no one would waste time trying to fight a battle that doesn't exist.

    I don't like it when people lie, commit adultery, or even cut people off in traffic intentionally, etc, as all of them are unbiblical/unloving things to do, but I accept that these things are going to occur, and I'm not out rallying against them. But if someone were out trying to force me to believe that it's okay to lie and that being honest (telling the truth) is not a moral issue and not wrong, then I'd have to stand up against that. Likewise, if someone were trying to change U.S. law such that stealing was not wrong (which would be perfectly logical, if people really agreed with "survival of the fittest"), then I'm sure I'd be out fighting against those types of changes as well.

    To me, the homosexual activist movement is not about just getting a few rights, it's about acceptance of a lifestyle by the general public and trying to force people to agree that it's perfectly normal (not to mention trying to indoctrinate children to believe so at a young age). Sorry, I disagree with that belief and I disagree with the way they're trying to force it on others.

    -Chris

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  8. "Why do you read them?"

    Because the Holy Spirit called me to do so and is energizing me to do so.

    "they are trying to inform people and inspire people to resist those things that would destroy our culture."

    This is the problem - you are mixing up the secular culture with the Kingdom of God. I am calling for those who genuinely want to follow Jesus Christ to STOP doing so. We have been called to focus on the Kingdom of God and let GOD take care of the secular culture. This is a massive and sinister category error and has led literally millions to a completely distorted view of Jesus Christ and God's work on earth.

    BTW - the churches have also gotten involved in the deception and manipulation of partisan politics.

    Respectfully,
    Patrick

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  9. Anon 11:30

    I appreciate your intelligence. Though, I note, there never was a battle - it was an artificial battle created by.... well, people who simply are not interested in the Word of God.

    The real battle is against powers and spiritual forces and rulers in high places. This battle is done on your needs and through a broken, submitted heart to the Creator and His Son. It is NOT done through constant fund-raising and raising a fleshly ruckus... Satan just laughs at such activities and, as we now see, he has had a great laugh in WA State for those who fell for the joke of rejecting Ref71.

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  10. "Every time a child turns 18, that 100,000 margin goes up by 1. Every time an elderly person passes away, that margin goes up by 1. Every time a son or daughter comes out and demostrates to their family that gay relationships are not going to destroy the world, that number goes up by 50."

    Boy, you must be a real, genuine math and statistics major. Sorry, but I can't agree that every single person who turns 18 believes homosexual marriage is a good thing. I know the activists are working the schools as hard as they can to indoctrinate children into this view, and no doubt it's having its effect, but parents and God can still have an effect on people and their beliefs, thank God, so just because most of the Seattle area has lost their wits, doesn't mean all is lost in the entire state.

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  11. anon 11:30 9-17

    Are you Joe Fuiten? If not you and he should get together. You both have the same beliefs.

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  12. It would probably be a lot easier if it weren't thrust in our face on a daily basis. If the activists were content with living their lives, keeping their sexuality to themselves instead of making a political issue of it, and stop trying to force people to believe homosexuality is "normal and healthy," then no one would waste time trying to fight a battle that doesn't exist.


    Anon 8:23

    What do you care about other people's sexuality???? The fact is that they simply want the same civil rights that everyone has - and the reason we have to deal with them is because their are so many religious people who have made it a lifestyle to focus on other people's sexuality. Back in my day, we used to call that perversion... now some people call it "Judeo-Christian values".

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  13. "involved in the deception and manipulation of partisan politics"

    Standing up for what you believe in is not being "involved in the deception and manipulation of partisan politics," It's just common sense. I have no less rights as a Christian than as a "secular person," so when the government or other organizations tries to say right is wrong, wrong is right, black is white, etc, then I'll stand up against that, which is both my right and duty as an American. Yes, I do submit to a higher authority and my primary goal is to follow Jesus Christ and lead others to do the same, that is not in conflict with having a secondary goal of trying to lead my nation towards what right, just like everyone else is trying to do. Once again, if the government or other org tried to pertetrate the lie that stealing or murder isn't morally wrong, I'd stand up against that as well, wouldn't you? So we disagree about what's right and wrong, but don't try to tell me that I shouldn't vote, petition, or otherwise be involved in the political process. I suspect that if I said "You disagree with me, so you shouldn't vote," you wouldn't be likely to listen, would you? Why should I. If you want to talk about issues, fine, talk about issues, but don't try to disuade me from the political process because you fear my argument might catch the ear of more people than you'd prefer. Thanks.

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  14. Hey Gary.... you can stop using the quotation marks around the word marriage for state's that recognize same-sex marriage. The State of CT doesn't have marriages and "marriages".....they just have 1 thing called marriage.

    Thanks.

    Oh - and so what if people from outside of CT got to CT to get married. My sister lives in California right now and got married up here in WA at our parent's church. Would you rather she spent her wedding tax dollars in WA or CA? There is no residency requirement here and in many states and people cross state lines to get married all the time....both gay and straight couples. It isn't a conspiracy.....if Kansas was the only state that recognized opposite-sex marriage people would flock to it too.

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  15. Anon 5:01

    There is a difference between being involved as a positive force based ON INTEGRITY AND HONESTY and working together for the rights and equality of all citizens - and the use of manipulation, deception and partisan politics including violence against peaceful human beings.

    I don't know who you are - but I strongly suspect you are involved in the latter rather than the former. Unfortunately, you do not appear to be able to discern the difference.

    The second issue is that God does NOT call us to impose specific Kingdom values through oppression - and that is exactly what the religious right is doing. That is VERY differnt than working together to uphold the values that ALL Americans cherish - hard work, personal responsibility, not stealing and not murdering as you mentioned. So again, your religious leadership has failed you by mixing up categories.

    I am happy to dialogue with you if you are genuinely willing fully submit your heart to the person of Jesus Christ rather the rank partisanship of popular relgion.

    Sincerely,
    Patrick

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  16. God or money? It's time for churches to start talking politics again from their pulpits, like they routinely did before the 1960's, regardless if they lose tax exempt status or not. This is the only hope for America. Church leaders are trusting in government funding rather than trusting God! America's politicains set themselves against God, against godly morality, against Creation, and work to remove God from every public institution--while the Church stands silently by watching--gagged by IRS regulations and fear. Pathetic! God commands his people to speak up, and not to be yoked together with the ungodly. Therefore, the Church sins when it financially yokes itself with the IRS, instead of speaking out boldly, publically, and politically in support of Christ.

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