Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Boy Scouts Not Prepared

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The motto of the hundred-year-old Boy Scouts of America is, "Be Prepared." (Scout Handbook p.54)

I can still remember repeating the motto and doing the salute as a kid.

The Boy Scouts may not have been "prepared" for the reaction they are receiving after it was learned Monday that they are considering allowing professed homosexuals to serve as leaders, reversing their 110-year policy.

It appears they are about to get a different kind of salute. And a mass exodus.

And it's interesting what the Boy Scout leadership privately asked of the Southern Baptist Convention, the Mormon Church and Catholic Church.

Southern Baptist Convention CEO Frank Page says, ""Wayne Brock (Chief Scout Executive of the BSA, headquartered in Texas) visited with me last week, signaling the possibility they would consider this proposal at their February board meeting. He specifically asked the Southern Baptist Convention not to oppose this move. Of course, I refused to make this concession."

The Scouts have also contacted the Mormon Church and the Catholic Church with the same request.

Page, an Eagle Scout himself, also said, "I am very disappointed the Board is considering this. This action reverses the findings of a two-year study last July that affirmed their principled stand on biblical morality. From what they told me, they are wilting under pressure from some of their corporate sponsors and the fear they could lose a future court case, despite the fact that they prevailed before the Supreme Court on this very issue."

This is hardly a move from within the organization for change, as some homosexual activists are suggesting.

Albert Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, told USA Today that the policy change would be "nothing less than disastrous for the Boy Scouts of America." In a blog post, Mohler asserted that the "new policy announced yesterday is almost sure to please no one and to lead to disaster for the Scouts. Those pressing for a reversal of the national policy are not likely to be satisfied with a local option."

All this while the secular progressives and homosexual activists respond with a tut, tut, tut, "This is merely an expression of evolving values and changing times."

The Southern Baptists are promising a mass exodus from the Scouts if they reverse their policy. The Catholic and Mormon churches are withholding comment until after the decision is made next Wednesday.

Given the recent history of both church's position toward the homosexual agenda, I would think their response will be similar to that of the Southern Baptists.

Dr. Richard Land, head of SBC's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission summed it up this way, "This is a catastrophic decision for the Boy Scouts of America. In order to placate their East and West Coast appendages, they are tearing out the heart of their Midwest and Southern support. This decision will lead to a mass exodus of traditional, orthodox Christianity from the Boy Scouts, including thousands of Catholic, Baptist and other traditional faith congregations."

Indeed. We'll see.

Be Informed. Be Vigilant. Be Discerning. Be Faithful. Be Prayerful. Be Blessed.


  1. One must think, how long God will allow all of us to behave in such a manner as this? Everyone needs to think back to the time of the world wide flood and why God sent destruction upon His creation. Don't forget about Sodom and Gomorrah and why it was also destroyed. SEATTLE, WA

  2. Maybe it's time to change the motto to "be groomed."

  3. This doesn't sound like a move from within the Boy Scout organization. It sounds like more of the same bullying from gay activists and their converts. It seems a few may ruin the Scouts for many. So sad.

  4. They are redefining marriage, the gender of wife and husband, family, now the Boy Scouts are about to be retooled. Why are we allowing this for the 2% who practice deviant sexual behavior?

  5. The culture that is forming America is brought to us through the modern education system . The church is influenced by it more then we influence the culture . Kids today have no clue to why people are upset about homosexual acceptance . Those in brought up in churches often live in two worlds , and the hypricisy in our own churches turn them off. The fact is marriage has long been just another choice , living together is just as moraly acceptable . Marriage is no longer specfic for child rearing as having a main aspect to it , its just another choice .Its no longer the left who is trying to change history and revisionist history . That is us now . We are coming off as zealots . Christ is the answer here , tinme for the church to get back to presenting the Gospel , sharing the Good news , and loving our neigbors. The world is only doing their job description .

    We gotta love these folks , most of all I think love each other in the church. These are exciting times .


  6. Well, my son is a Boy Scout, and I wonder if I pull out my son and exit the Boy Scouts based upon this new policy, if the activist will demand to have the names and contacts of those who oppose? Will they contact me and state I am putting hate thought into my son? Well I will do whatever God commands in the raising of my children and promise will not 'wilt' under their pressure!!! I love God and His commands. When it comes to my family and community, I will stand for morality and proper sexual behaviors.

  7. Why ever would we allow our children to be defined by those who define themselves by their own sexual deviance?

  8. Public sentiment and corporate support are turning against the BSA, so it's probably time for a split. Why not have a new organization called Christian Scouts of America. Let BSA be the new inclusive organization and Christian Scouts can be the home for those who don't want to be around gays or atheists. I think there's plenty of room for both.

    1. I agree!!! Let's not participate in an organization that directly defies our Christian standards. Someone has to take a stand for morality. Let it be us Christians. And let's be firm but nice. We simply exit programs which foster tolerance of immorality.

    2. Well that is part of the original issue; the Scouts have exclusive usage of the term 'Scouts' in the United States via Title 36 of the United States Code. A self declared private religious group can dictate who can use the term 'Scout' in their name.

      The BSA needs to be a private religious youth group or a civic group - pick one. The first has full rights to regulate its members as it pleases, the other has to be in compliance with the rules that govern all public accomodations. And the first should not have exclusive rights by federal decree.

    3. Why not? The Constitution seems to disagree with you.

      Craig In Lacey

  9. "mass exodus" ... "not prepared"...

    These are the same dire predictions we heard would occur if Don't Ask Don't Tell were repealed. Well it has, and it's been more than a year and everything is...

    Just. Fine.

    I have yet to see an update from Gary on how the repeal is going. Probably because there's nothing to report.

    So it will be with the Scouts.

  10. Diito Mick

    The "Church", not the building mind you, but the body of Christ is largely responsible for how far we have fallen. Jesus said it would be this way, that there would be a "falling away" in the last days. He was talking about the Laodicean church which is evident in our culture. It has a form of godliness, yet denies the power thereof.

    The church has polluted the Gospel through the heretical teaching of men, false prophets who deny God's Word says what it clearly does, "you shall not lay with a man as you do with a woman". We need to correct this doctrine in a spirit of gentleness, but if they will not listen, the Bible says to treat them as an unbeliever.

    Here are our marching orders in 2 Timothy 4, " In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus who is to judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage- with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit there own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

    Remember, Mick, this is not our home. Prepare yourself, its only going to get worse.

    Craig In Lacey

  11. You know, the Girl Scouts of America do not exclude leaders or scouts based on sexual orientation, and yet they are still going strong.

  12. Scout Master of a Christian BSA Troop for 18 years and a Pack leader for 10. Compromise with evil you will always have evil. If they vote for this I recommend all families to flee with there sons.

    1. Yes, time for a new group - Christian Scouts of America. It's got a nice ring.

    2. Please go and do so. And you can sit around and discuss how pure and righteous you are. What fine Pharisees you'll all make. Refusing to associate with people because they don't agree with you. Of course it directly contradicts Jesus who came for the sick and Paul: "

      I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

      12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1st Corinthians, 5:9-12

      But what do you care? You know better than Jesus and Paul how todemonstrate the love of Christ.

      What a pale and fragile thing this faith of yours is.

  13. GSA is NOT doing well. There is a new group who continue w/the biblical standards that GSA used to espouse. My child/grands have not and will not belong to GSA. I refuse to buy their cookies either.

  14. no just switch over to the christian service brigade
    or the awana or calvinist cadets which are non denimonational scout like groups or the royal rangers are part of the assembly of god church the royal ambasadors are southern baptist church or the pathfinders are seventh day adventist church
    the roman catholics and lds church and the eastern orthodox church could each start their own group exclusive to thie denimonation

  15. I wish I had the knowledge or leadership from another person to instruct and assist me in setting up an organization to meet the needs of Christian boys. It takes knowledge and understanding on the parts of all involved, ie parents, youth, etc., also. These groups are not just to be social groups, but to actually help to mold the minds and hearts of our children. It takes more than most are willing to give. Our current leaders do sacrifice much in order to hold the positions and follow through with all activities, teaching, etc of our children. Again, as Christians we are being called into service.

  16. [Thanks, Gary. For what it may be worth, here's what I found on the web. Tim]

    BSA Prez's Faith Promotes Porn !

    by Aaronita Smith

    Yes, the religion of BSA Pres. Wayne Perry (who's been behind gay Boy Scouts) actually promotes illustrated MALE porn!
    Scholars, including Mormon ones, know of a hard-core porn sketch in the Mormon-approved "Book of Abraham."
    This Book is part of the "Pearl of Great Price" which, along with the "Book of Mormon," is LDS-authorized scripture.
    Figure 7 in Facsimile 2 in "Abraham" shows two beings facing each other. Joseph Smith described them as the "Holy Ghost" and "God" (the Father), the latter showing an erect male sex organ.
    Mormons were offended when Smith's newspaper published this sketch in 1842, so the phallic part was whited out for a century until the "restored" LDS church restored the X-rated drawing in 1981!
    LDS scholars have hushed up the fact that the "Book of Abraham" is not about the biblical Abraham but actually portrays ancient Egyptian documents showing occult obscene sketches.
    Those scholars also know that Smith fraudulently altered them so that he could (blasphemously) portray the Christian trinity as sex fiends in order to promote polygamy among his followers!
    For more info see "Book of Abraham" (Wikipedia). And check out the Tanners' "Mormonism - Shadow or Reality?" which reproduces the original Egyptian sketches Smith plagiarized and exploited. Also Yahoo or Google "Facts From Mormons (By a Utah Resident)," "God to Same-Sexers: Hurry Up," "The Background Obama Can't Cover Up," and "USA - from Puritans to Impure-itans."


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