Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Will The Boy Scouts Cave To Homosexual Bullying?

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For more than a hundred years, the Boy Scouts of America have had a policy regarding homosexuals in leadership.

Yesterday they released a statement that indicates things may change. Are the Scouts caving in to bullying from the leading homosexual activists groups?

But first. Last week we published a Blog alerting you to the "Reproductive Parity Act," a bill that requires anyone who buys maternity insurance, must also buy coverage for an abortion. Planned Parenthood and NARAL are the parents of this legislation. Their usual allies in the Legislature are pushing it for them. And they are pushing hard.

The bill is HB 1044. A hearing was announced yesterday for this Thursday, January 31 at 8 AM. The hearing will be held by the House Committee on Health Care & Wellness in the John L. O'Brien Building in Hearing Room B.

If you can attend, please do. If not please contact your District Representative and ask them to oppose the bill. 


The New York Times and others are reporting in ways that imply the Scouts position change on gays is a done deal, however, the release does not suggest that. It will be considered in next week's board meeting. Homosexual activists are also talking like it is a done deal and they are already complaining that it does not go far enough.

This is yesterday's statement:

It was released by Deron Smith.

"The BSA is discussing potentially removing the national membership restriction regarding sexual orientation. This would mean there would no longer be any national policy regarding sexual orientation, but that the chartered organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting would accept membership and select leaders consistent with their organization’s mission, principles or religious beliefs."

This statement merely says that should the national board of the BSA decide at their board meeting next week to make a change, they will give local Troops the discretion to set the policy.

While the New York Times and homosexual activists are crediting the consideration to pressure from ordinary folks across the nation, there has been enormous pressure, directly and indirectly, from the homosexual activist groups and of course, the media.

And as usual, should the Boy Scouts change their position, the homosexual activists are already claiming it is not enough.

They are attacking the decision that has not yet been made, saying, "It's a step in the right direction, but under the policy change, it will still be possible for some units to discriminate."

The Boy Scouts of America was founded in 1910 and now has 2.6 million scouts and 1 million involved adults.

The private organization has not allowed homosexuals or atheists to join since their founding.

The Supreme Court ruled in favor of their policy regarding gays in 2000.

This is yet another example of the attack on biblical values and the erosion of religious freedoms---this time by bullies who advocate tolerance.

Lets hope and pray that the Scouts don't cave to the activists.

Things will change in our culture. I read a meaningful Psalm this morning in my personal devotions: "Weeping may endure for a night, but joy comes in the morning" (Ps. 30:5).

Be Encouraged. Be Strengthened. Be Discerning. Be Vigilant. Be Prayerful. Be Active. Be Blessed.


  1. Our USA is based on choices and the free will that YAHVEH(GOD) gave us. I do not believe and feel that homosexuals should be allowed in the Boy Scouts. They have a right to their own order and youth organizations, but not a right to invade ours. Yes, they can also have their own high schools, but stay out of our private religious schools. I do not believe in same sex marriage; however, in hospitals whoever they consider as family can visit them and assist in provided care. I do not believe that homosexuals should adopt children, I do not believe that heterosexual people who are single should adopt children. The only people who have a right to adoption are heterosexuals that are married, and that means one male to one female. This USA of ours is falling into a pit like every other empire that promoted and had a rise in homosexuality. Each one has to answer on their own to YAHVEH(GOD).

    1. If a heterosexual couple who adopts later divorces do they give back the child? Your logic begs that question.

    2. Not really Commenter , science supports his view as does what is best for the child . Gender differences are scientificaly proven fact . Not only physical , but brain size and activity. Not all gender roles are cultural . You have a point to suggest marriage and child rearing are not important if that is whatb you are saying , in fact in this culture you have a good argument . But with all things being considered , a mom and dad are the best choice for a child . I would support any legislation that gave the preference to adoption of a mom and dad over two dads , one mom , etc . Logic suggests that also and science bears out why too. Both genders have something to offer that comes from nature itself .

      If a mom and dad divorce it is another issue , and causes harm to the child and all involved for that matter . Just like if two same sex partners divorced with children in the home . But the argument becomes circular because I suggest the seame morality that is based in self , my rights , what I get out of it is what supports divorce and same sex marriage views. Rights of self have trumped the responsibility this generation and every generation has in protecting and taking care the least of us and most vulernable , our youth .


    3. Mick, you are generalizing. Yes statistically averaged, there are differences beteween male and female averages but as individuals the male and female groups in almost every parameter overlap from 70-80%. That means that while it might be a slightly greater chance of a quality in a particular sex there is still a good chance they aren't.

      As far as child rearing the 3 most important factors that are predictive of a good child rearing result are:
      stable home environment
      2 parents

      everything else disappears in the statistical noise.

  2. When a 'million moms' try to pressure JC Penney to change their policy, that's just the market place working. But when public pressure forces the BS to change their policy, that's bullying.

    You're pathetic.

    1. Who here said that's just the market place working, It's still bullying.

  3. Please Gary, explain how asking for change by people both in and out of scouting of a civil organization that accepts special privileges from all levels of government is 'bullying'. As long as the Scouting movement accepts government special rights as stated in Title 36 of the United States Code, they also incur obligations

    This change will just bring the US in line with the world scouting movement and allow choice - troops that want to be exclusive can, those that don't won't have to be.

    Freedom of choice, that's what America is all about and I applaud this solution by the BSA - it allows all troops the ability to do what's right for their scouts while allowing those that want to discriminate to continue to do so.

    As with any good compromise the extremes of either side aren't getting everything they want but everyone is getting something - if only politicians could re-discover this simple playground truth.

    1. Oshtur, if the Scouts decide to keep their current policy, will you still say freedom of choice is what it's all about?

    2. When have I said they couldn't? As a private religious organization they have a right to let any in they want and exclude any in they want. They could exclude minorities or ethnicities as they choose too. That doesn't mean anyone not be able to say they think what they are doing is wrong.

      This is a,change coming from their own members and supporters. You've heard about the troop that has a no discrimination policy on their website and were told to take it down last week, right? I would think that,this plus several similar instances have made them decide that individual councils and troops should decide for themselves on this issue.

      It's win win, those that want to discriminate can go to a Westburo Baptist like sponsored troop, and those that don't can go to Unitarian or Lutheran sponsored one. I still will probably be recommending Campfire Kids.

    3. That's a fair answer. Thank you.

  4. Homosexuality is an addiction, not an unalienable right. I've never known a homosexual who didn’t have a personality disorder. Homosexuality is a rare, intensely codependent sexual addiction that, like other addiction epidemics, has poisoned civilizations. It is the sine qua non of personal and national failure. Legislatively or judicially enshrining any addiction in marriage, the military, or the BSA is utter madness, or treachery. Humanity has an inherent Natural right of self-defense against this. That right has been defamed as a hate crime by addicts, Gramscian Progressives/communists promoting cultural destabilization, and RINOs craving power over principle. Defeat them.

    1. Apparently you know something that the American Psychiatric Association doesn't. You need to contact them immediately and get them up to speed.

    2. They are up to speed , they have started to speak to pedophilia also. Just like hetrosexuality it is a orienation in the view point of many int hat association . In fact many of the books used to teach sexual education in public schools come from autghrors who concur with this . Many also will conclude that it is the GUILT of sex of the adult and child that is the problem , not the sex itself .

      In other words , when shrinks told us that homosexuality was a mental illness did you believe that ? I sure did not , and I do not believe sexual molestion of children is even comparable to my relationship with my wife or a relationship with a two consenting adults of the same sexes . But according to many you take as the Gospel , they do .

  5. I hope and pray that a deviant, perverted mindset does not prevail over sense and tradition. There are other Scouting organizations out there, but it would be a shame to see the Boy Scouts abandoned because the leaders decided to succumb to the lustful desires of the few. As James stated in James 1:12-18...
    "12Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.

    13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. 15Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

    16Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers. 17Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. 18He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created."

  6. I'm always amazed at how the gays explain away their constant effort to re-order the culture with a mere "oh, its nothing, things have changed, we must change too." Thanks for standing firm and telling the truth. You call things as they are. God bless you.

  7. The anti-traditional values people have appearently taken over the national Boy Scouts. They have a merit badge now that encourages destroying property rights.

  8. Joel, good point. You know what the ywill say if the Boy Scouts decide not to change their policy. It will be discrimination not freedom of choice. As Gary says, hypocricy.

  9. As said in the Princess Bride "I don't think that word means what you think it means." Having the choice to discriminate doesn't mean others aren't still free to point out that you are discriminating.

  10. Oshtur. Should not others also be free to point out bullying when it occurs?

    1. bullying: using strength or power to harm or intimidate those who are weaker.

      Explain to me a how a multimillion dollar organization with millions of members is being bullied exactly?

  11. Oshtur. They are being bullied by social pressure. How will it harm them? If they capitulate on their beliefs they stand to lose hundreds of thousands of members. If they stand their ground, they remain vulnerable to lawsuits and social attacks by gay activists.

    1. Who are these stronger entities 'bullying' this organization with millions of dollars and millions of members?

      And it is their own membership that is asking for this change. As you should know just today a Cub Scout pack was bullied into taking down the non discrimination statement they had on their website by the Boy Scouts. Many members want to be able to be inclusive.

      And why would members leave? They can attend troops that are discriminatory if they choose, those that don't want to discriminate can go to another troop. By not having a national policy that bullies members into doing things they think are wrong, everyone can do what they think is right.

      (see how using the word 'bully' for every disagreement is kinda silly?)

      And the only lawsuits against the Boy Scouts since they went to the Supreme Court is when they have tried to take things a civil organization qualifies for when they are a self-identified private religious organization.

      Because the reality is the Boy Scouts used to be considered a civil organization. I got my religion merit badge by writing a paper on our founding father's Deism and how it was the only reasonable religion to be. The Baptist minister that signed off on it just said 'you've put a lot of thought in this'.

      But by their own choice they aren't a civic organization any more. They can only qualify for state dollars, benefits and access in the same way Demolay, the Baptist Youth Fellowship and other religious youth organizations can. They only get sued when they try to take things they no longer qualify for.

      Sorry, I think using the word 'bullying' about complaints against a multimillion dollar organization is really stretching it, don't you? Do you see GLAAD talking about being 'bullied' by the FRC?

      Why don't we keep this on a sane level and reserve the word 'bullying' for real live human beings, or are you one of these people who thinks corporations are people?

    2. They got sued for their policy against homosexual membership, of course the plaintiffs lost, right of free association and all.

      I hope the BSA stands by their "duty to God", to oppose what God opposes.

      I don't think think Westboro Baptist would sponsor a scout troop regardless, they probably would consider it a communist organization, but they're pretty far out there, so who knows. We have a scout troop meet at our church and we're a long way away from Westboro in belief and practice. Yet, we don't support same-sex marriage either, beware the broad brush.

      Craig In Lacey


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