Wednesday, March 27, 2013

RNC Chairman: "Don't Act Like Old Testament Heretics On Marriage"

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As the world watches America, a nation founded on biblical principles, America watches the Supreme Court as they consider marriage.

People of faith and conservatives should also be watching the Republican Party.

Republican Party National Chairman Reince Priebus told USA Today this week, "I don't believe we need to act like Old Testament heretics" regarding homosexuality and same-sex marriage.

The Supreme Court continues its hearing on marriage. And the future of our nation.

The questioning yesterday perhaps gave a clue to how they are thinking.

Today they are considering the constitutionality of the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).

Some thoughts on the Court hearings yesterday and what is the Republican Party thinking?

Some thoughts of the Court hearing yesterday.

It appears from the justices' questions that the Court may neither decide that the Constitution requires all states to allow same-sex couples to marry, nor rule against other courts that denied voters the right to define marriage as a union between one man and one woman.

Personally, from what I have heard and read, I'm wondering if the Court has the 5 votes necessary to get to any definitive result---either way.

Justices Alito, Scalia and Chief Justice Roberts, I think, made it pretty clear that they do not believe the Constitution requires states to legalize same-sex marriage. Justice Thomas didn't ask any questions, but certainly agrees.

The 4 far left progressive justices, including Obama's Elena Kagal and Sonia Sotomayor, not surprisingly seemed favorable to redefining marriage for all 50 states.

Justice Kennedy wondered if it is too early to rule on same-sex marriage. This probably means he favors a more narrow ruling on Prop 8. Or even no ruling.

Which means the Court could decide the case on "standing".

The State of California is not defending the case through its governor or its attorney general, so the court could decide that the defendants do not have the right to bring the case before the court and dismiss it.

That option would not surprise me on Proposition 8, but would be disappointing to the majority in California who voted to defend marriage as between one man and one woman.

The audio and text of today's hearing will be posted here

What is the Republican Party thinking?

GOP National Chair Reince Priebus told USA Today, "We do have a platform, and we adhere to that platform, but it doesn't mean that we divide and subtract people from our party who support the right of gay men and lesbians to marry."

He said, "I don't believe we need to act like Old Testament heretics," we "have to strike a balance between principle and grace and respect."

This is an example of why the church must lead in cultural matters of morality.

If the church is absent in this discussion---avoiding politics, as some say, then in that vacuum these kinds of statements become the so-called moral voice and compass in the culture. While the church and its leaders commit the sin of silence.

Old Testament prophets were not heretics.

The Bible is the inspired, infallible Word of God.

The New Testament does not abolish the law, it fulfills the law.

Biblical Christians do not chose between the teaching of the Old and New Testaments. Jesus affirmed both.

Christianity is not an eclectic choice. A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ and His teaching which affirmed both the Old and New Testament. If Isaiah was a heretic, why did Jesus quote him as He defined his own ministry?

What are we thinking?

We're thinking we must win an election. But at any cost?

This is troublesome. Priebus said, "We have a platform, and we do adhere to that platform."

How so? It is written that a double minded man is unstable in all his ways. He is tossed by the winds of every new thought or belief.

Recognized Republican leaders are defying the platform plank about marriage, while claiming to represent the party. They are also defying the clear instruction of God's Word regarding homosexual behavior, while proclaiming to be a Christian.

Grace and respect are indeed biblical virtues, but do not equate to affirmation of a behavior that the Bible---Old and New Testament, clearly condemns.

Robert Knight wrote a column this week responding to the recent evolution of Republican Senator Rob Portman on the issue of same-sex marriage. As you know, Portman said he changed his view after his son came out as a homosexual. Portman said biblical teaching led him to change his view.

Knight says, "It's one thing to have unconditional love and compassion toward a friend or loved one, and another thing to redefine marriage for the whole nation. Public policy is the force of law." He says, "'gay marriage' will lead to less freedom and more government."

He says marriage is already under attack by no-fault divorce and co-habitation. Knight believes that when marriage becomes "genderless," it will lose even more legitimacy and contribute less to stability, prosperity and self-sufficiency. "As nuclear families fail," he says, "the government will grow to pick up the pieces---and to enforce the new reality."

Knight believes this drive to redefine marriage poses the greatest domestic threat to the freedoms of religion, speech and assembly.

"When traditional morality is equated with racist bigotry, civil rights enforcement becomes a gun aimed at the head of citizens, forcing them to choose between God and Caesar," he says.

Knight says, "This should never happen in America, where our Founders said rights come from our Creator, not capricious man, who can mistake fashion for morality."


Thank you for your support of our efforts to inform and engage the good people of this state and this country.

Be Vigilant. Be Discerning. Be Informed. Be Prayerful. Be Active. Be Blessed.


  1. Excellent! You have covered all the basis. I think yours is the first time I have heard the Bible mentioned in all the flurry of discussion around the Supreme Court's activity. What a shame! Thank you for standing up for what is Biblical, logical, and, of course, morally right!

  2. "The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: It connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity." John Quincy Adams

    Priebus, like many amoral GOP officials, is a used car salesman trying to sell the Democrats' used cars that always stop running when driven off the lot.

    1. Great way to connect the dots so to speak. Our founders had it right when turning to God when creating our great country! As Christians we much continue to faithfully pray for our Lords direction and trust in Him alone.

  3. If the Republican Party is wondering why they are losing adherents, they need look no further than actions and statements like these.

  4. You people are too much and talk out of both sides of your mouths religion is about love thy neighbor regardless that they are gay, black, yellow, brown you interpret the bible according to your prejudices I say look into your own house and clean it before you clean anyone else's. I do not believe anything "man" says because you finger pointers are sinners as well just like the rest of us I go to the source (GOD) and if these be sins GOD and GOD alone will judge me as well as you for sitting in judgement of others. I voted for Obama I want gays to get married adopt children do you know they adopt the "throwaway" children that you wonderful religious people reject because you want to force woman to have children they are not ready to have this is as a result of not having access to abortion or birth control. SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!! AND OBAMA CARE IS HERE TO STAY TO STEP OFF!!!!!

    1. I do love my neighbor, that doesn't mean I'm required to affirm their behavior, whatever it is.

      The "man" Jesus Christ said that marriage was between a man and a woman, since He is also God. I'll take him at his word ( the source)

      You confuse judgement with condemnation. Am I not to judge a murderer guilty if they have committed the act? What I don't have is the power, nor should I seek it, to say that person is irredeemable, that they are forever lost.

      Christ came to seek and save that which is lost, I have no right to cross anyone off, but I am called to judge right from wrong according to God's word (The Bible). There is still time for repentance..........

      Craig in Lacey

  5. Anon 9:45 Yes I am pro-life, but how does gay adoption equate to abortion? Are you saying that abortion will equate to gays not adopting children?

  6. EXCELLENT words. Blessings to you.

  7. This issue with the Republican party is becoming more and more of a problem to me and many of my friends. I haven't heard the leadership here in Washington say what Preibus said, but they follow the same kind of thinking. I don't see how this will ever lead to winning anything much less a presidential election. Thank you.

  8. "When traditional morality is equated with racist bigotry, civil rights enforcement becomes a gun aimed at the head of citizens, forcing them to choose between God and Caesar,"
    These are very powerful words. Thank you for what you are doing.

  9. "but would be disappointing to the majority in California who voted to defend marriage"

    Perhaps that would have been the case right after it was passed, but polls now show that Californians have buyers remorse and a solid majority would like to see Prop 8 reversed. And the fact is, you know that, but you just want to deceive your followers. tsk tsk, Gary.

    1. I'm not deceived, I follow Christ, period. If as you say there's a majority in Calif. that now support same-sex marriage, your best bet is to start another Prop. to affirm that.

      I think you know better.

      Craig in Lacey

    2. Actually, the fact is, YOU know better. Prop 8 will go away, whether by Supreme Court, state courts, or a new referendum. It will happen and you know it's inevitable, regardless of your wishes. As you all were fond of saying until last November, "people have never supported gay marriage when they had a chance to vote on it".

      It's a new day and it's rainbow glorious!

    3. The only thing that's inevitable is eternity. "Me all" never claimed anything except God is not pleased when we stick our finger in his eyes, so to speak.

      Whether the courts overturn it or not will never bring affirmation. God is not mocked, we reap what we sow.

      Craig in Lacey

  10. I love the irony that you folks helped promote this issue when you actively put it on the ballots in 2004 to help re-elect Bush. Turns out it backfired and is helping the democrats now. This issue alone may now be enough to keep the presidency out of reach for you. The lord works in mysterious ways, eh?

  11. You know you've lost when on the days of historic hearings at the Supreme Court about same-sex marriage, the focus is on how much the Republican Party -- Republicans!! -- are abandoning their battle stations on this issue.

    I do not believe that all people who oppose same-sex marriage are bigots. However, history is never kind to those who are holding onto discrimination at the very end.

  12. Is holding to one's personal biblical beliefs discrimination? If my Christian faith leads me to believe that marriage is between one man and one woman and gay activists are forcing a redefinition of marriage is that not also discrimination?

    1. Biblical beliefs can be discriminatory, of course. Holding one's personal religious beliefs and choosing to live your own life by them is not discriminatory. But trying to use the force of law to coerce others into living by your discriminatory religious beliefs is blatant discrimination and just plain wrong.

      Churches are free to discriminate within their own confines (that's why a woman cannot sue a church to become a priest), but none of us is free to discriminate in the public realm. The separation of church and state allows us to live by our personal religious beliefs and protects us in our churches, and it also frees us from living under the confines of a different set of religious values by another free-practicing religious group.

      That is why religion-based arguments for denying same-sex couples equal marriage rights are so odious. You ask others to live by your personal religious values, but you would not likely live by anyone else's.

  13. 10:45 This is not "the end." It is a very low point in the history of our country. The end comes later and truth will prevail.

  14. If the Republican party continues to turn left, there will be a dangerous split.

  15. Yes, and ... and even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things ..." The Apostle Paul in the Holy Bible.

    It seems we all choose our walk and the outcome.

  16. Excellent post but I was wondering if you could write a litte more on this subject?
    I'd be very grateful if you could elaborate a little bit further. Thank you!

  17. Pastor, it has been nearly 2 years since the R71 petitions became public. Won't you please update us on the systematic campaign of violence and intimidation directed against the signers? I am sure this must have happened because this is what you swore to 3 federal courts would happen. Please tell us about all the violence.

    1. Gary has a pretty dismal record for accuracy. But the people who follow him are not looking for accuracy. They want to believe what they want to believe, regardless.

  18. Different world we live in . Always defended traditional marriage secularly , thought religiously was a mistake , we really are a unBibically educated people . Look at the way the OT is portrayed here . What a ignorant Republican Chair , speaking to the OT from a western civilization perspective . Not even close to understanding the context , the witers perspectives or the readers at the time it was written . Plus the language . I surprised he did not thow out the old don't wear wool comments .

    All things being even, , a male and female , biological parents , are best for children . You get twists with unfit parents , etc . But all things being even male and female genders are both needed for parenting . The acceptance of orientation in this culture is evident , look at all the media shows on TV , not just cable , but networks . The homosexual characters often portrayed as above the rest , religious ones identified as lacking . This culture would not permit a college professor asking students to stomp on a picture of a homosexual kid , or even a Muslim for that matter . Using religious concepts are fine , science supports them . But saying Jesus ays I am right is a lame argument in this culture.

    I think the religious aspect of this issue was over played in the debate . Christianity did not conquer Rome politically , it over came the sexual immorality and dedication to self worship by Loving their neigbor and Loving God . I often have had some real heated arguments with liberals over property rights , freedom . The issue was irrelveant almost to the animosity and I will get even with you next time feelings we departed with . Hard to remain friends in this culture when your politically opposed .

    Using Christ in a political fight is not a good idea , why leave the person mad at Jesus after the debate or mad at your Faith in Jesus .

    I am sad that same sex marriage is the law of this state , I think it hurts and will continue a down turn spiral of hurt for the family . Our focus is being changed from supporting kids and keeping marriage partners together.

    But in one way it is good , it has never been so good to be a believer , the world needs the Love of Christ more then ever . I think we can support marriage and life more by sharing the Gospel privately then politically , and helping those moms , dads and kids . Especially when they fail to keep the marriage contract intact .


    1. Thank you Mick, well said!

      Craig in Lacey


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