Friday, May 09, 2014

Evangelical College Controversy: "Were Adam And Eve Real People?"

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"Student dissent is heating up in a controversy over beliefs about Adam and Eve," writes the Associated Press.

Ironically, the evangelical college where the controversy is playing out was named after William Jennings Byran, the politician who opposed the teaching of evolution in the famous 1925 Scopes Trial.

Students and faculty are embroiled in the controversy, with students petitioning to remove the president and change the school's statement of faith, some professors leaving the school refusing to teach unless the statement is changed, the president and his board standing firm, while the press fans the flames of controversy.

At the tip of the spear? Were Adam and Eve real people?

Or more specifically, biblical Creationism.

Associated Press is reporting that this past February, the Bryan College board and the president amended the school's statement of faith.

The original statement read in part "that the origin of man was by fiat of God in the act of Creation as related in the Book of Genesis; that he was created in the image of God; that he sinned and thereby incurred physical and spiritual death."

In February, in an effort to clarify the school's belief, the board and the president amended the statement to read, "We believe that all humanity is descended from Adam and Eve. They are the historical persons created by God in a formative act, and not from previously existing forms of life."

Professors are required to sign the school's statement of faith each year.

Since the statement was amended, a group of students have begun petitioning to remove the president, change the statement, etc.

A majority of the faculty---30-2, have voted "no confidence" in the president's leadership.

Some local news is reporting that 9 of the 44 faculty members will not be returning next year. The board says it isn't that many.

Kevin Clauson, vice chair of the faculty says he is one of the two who voted in favor of the president.

He said some who voted against him did so because of the timing and the way he handled the announcement of the amendment more than their disagreement with it.

He said it is a "sad" situation.

However, he said, "If Bryan is going to maintain itself as an evangelical Christian college, it has to make sure its doctrine is firm...that there's no slippage of doctrine."

Not only is the press fanning the flames of controversy at this Christian college, the atheists are piling on as well.

Jerry Coyne is professor of ecology and evolution at the University of Chicago. He is a declared and devout atheist. He has written a number of books and articles advocating evolution and mocking Creationism. And is always condescending toward people of faith.

If you have seen the movie "God Is Not Dead," he personifies the professor in the movie. If you have not seen you should do so.

I have written about him a number of times in the past. I was not surprised to see he had inserted himself into this matter.

He says he's been following the Bryan case and saw it "as a larger trend among evangelical Christians to assert the historicity of Adam and Eve in a new kind of 'Darwin Moment'."

Coyne says, "Its sort of amazing to see this clash between religion and science all over again, except this is kind of sad."

"As soon as you say something about the historicity of Genesis, science education is compromised," he says.

Now there is growing discussion in the education community as to whether Bryan College should lose its federal accreditation, which is very important to the degrees it confers to its graduates.

Dr. Karl W. Gilbertson, also a well known advocate for Darwin, told Inside Higher Education, "Bryan's stance is quiet extreme..."

He said, "In my opinion schools like Bryan should lose their accreditation. There should be no government approval of any sort for an institution that forces people to affirm that the earth is 10,000 years old, when we know it is 4.5 billion. It is also unconscionable to expect a scientist who knows the earth is 4.5 billion years old to suddenly start believing it is 10,000. How is that supposed to work."

He seems to be suggesting no one should ever change their mind regardless of the facts.

Consider this:

The number of intermediate varieties which have formerly existed on earth must be truly enormous. Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory." - Charles Darwin 1902 edition.

“…I am quite conscious that my speculations run beyond the bounds of true science….It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaw[s] & holes as sound parts.” Charles Darwin to Asa Gray, cited by Adrian Desmond and James Moore, Darwin, (New York: W.W. Norton and Company, 1991) pp. 456, 475.

Be Informed. Be Blessed.


  1. Wow! Thanks. Even Darwin didn't believe in the Darwinism our kids are taught.

    1. Don't let the out-of-context quotes above fool you. What Darwin was saying is that the fossil record that would be needed to fully support his theory would need to be uncovered. It has now been uncovered. Scientists' understanding of evolution has certainly changed over time - as happens as our comprehension of scientific principles advances - but what Darwin was saying in both of the above quotes is "more research is needed." That research has now been done and on overwhelming balance supports evolution.

    2. If you honestly believe that science has proven that mankind evolved from one or more hominid species you are simply uninformed. While paleontologists have discovered a menagerie of hominids, scientists have failed to establish the necessary evolutionary connections. Further, Paleoanthropologists cannot adequately account for evolutionary emergence of bipedalism or brain size which appear suddenly in the fossil record. Hominids "yes', but Humans made in God's image "no". Homo Erectus and/or Neanderthals , long regarded as central figues inthe human origin sequence, were evolutionary side branches and edead ends. Neither made genetic contributions to modern humans. Proclimations of scientific certainty which qualify only as "scientific theory" are popular in today's ideological climate, but they remain dishonest.
      If the God of the Bible exists, then He is perfectly capable of creating a new species of Hominid at the time of His choosing, made in "His Image" with an eternal soul. If He does not exist, then it is still up to science to explain our existence. Try as they might, they have not done so.

      Perhaps you should simply recommend that those who do not believe in the God the the Bible should not send their students to colleges founded on belief in the God of the Bible, instead of standing on the sidelines throwing rocks with intent to harm those who sincerely hold beliefs different than your own!

  2. Here's the Catholic belief re Adam and Eve. Just sharing..

  3. The fool says in his heart, "There is no God", despite a plethora of evidence to the contrary.

    The voice of the atheist "sound and fury, signifying nothing"

    Craig in Lacey

    1. Thumbs up on your post. Mimi from MA

  4. They have it back wards any school that teaches the earth is more than 5,000 years old should be shut down for heresy.

  5. All I can say is that, when these non-believers of God's holy Word will be in for the shock of their life when they meet Him face to face. Oh how they will know the difference then, but it will be too late.

  6. If we want to be real, we must believe that the things we read of in the Bible are real.

  7. I've seen some of those TV programs where they say that the universe is billions of years old, while they talk about great distances and how light moves, but I could see no proof as to the billions of years they talk about, because of the beginning of miracles that Jesus did at a wedding in Cana that John wrote about.

    We don't hear about time for fermentation in John 2.

  8. You're understanding of the controversy at Bryan is incomplete without the following information: the charter of the college says that the statement of faith shall not be changed as long as the college shall endure. Current faculty and recently-departed faculty were hired based on that unchangeable faith statement. Some of them fully articulated their beliefs on such subjects as evolution and a literal Adam and Even IN THEIR INTERVIEWS and were still approved for hire. NOW the board is changing the statement to include this language about Adam and Eve and the fact that they didn't descend from other life forms. Again, the charter insists that the faith statement "shall not be changed as long as the college shall endure." Certainly the issues related to creationism are important, but the most important issue is one of administrative integrity, which is currently being eroded at Bryan College.

    1. You are absolutely correct, that Administrative "integrity" is crucial. Any administrator who allowed teachers to join the faculty when they clearly do not believe what Genesis actually says, should be fired or retired. Any administrator who allows new hires to skirt around truth needs to make the original charger more "clear" in order to shut the door they want to go through. The 'change' did not change the meaning of the original charter, for the charter was intended to reaffirm Genesis as absolute truth. The adjustment simply made it more clear that the charter affirms the Genesis account without exception.
      The Administrator who decided to make this 'adjustment' for this purpose is an administrator WITH INTEGRITY.

  9. Students are more scientific nowadays. Thank you for sharing this wonderful opinion about this subject matter, I do really learn a lot.

  10. To have faith is to cling to your belief in God regardless of how the masses try and deceive you. All the miracles that had to unfold at just the right time to cause humanity to endure only supports that our creator watched over us as we grew.It is devastating to see the many Christian based schools and universities succumbing to political correctness.From leaks out of the DNC we know that they have placed people within our communities of faith to force us to liberalize our traditions and teachings. We see this in the Catholics more this year then ever as they embrace abortion and other teachings that God had never written positively about in his teachings.I will remain the outcast if that is what it takes to embrace my God , my faith and my understanding of what God wanted us to learn about the growth and evolution of man. God bless our institutions and pray that they embrace the real teachings from the bible and stand firm against the liberal pressure to embrace the things we were taught to shun.

  11. A central question, how do YOU know the Earth is of what age?

    The answer, someone told you, but who?

    Have read the Bible cover to cover seven times using seven different translation and, thanks to Rick Meyers with, have access to hundreds of Bible translations and copies in Hebrew and Greeks, which study regularly.

    Thanks to this wonderful resource can search out a matter in minutes, which use to take days, and even months, (time is relative) and have yet to discover where it makes G-d subject to the turning of the Earth to measure time.

    In fact, it says the complete opposite, he is the measure of all things, the alpha and the omega. All things are relative to him, and nothing is equal to him so it is impossible to measure him by any thing.

    One cannot say a second is a good unit of measure for the actions of G-d or any unit of time without lowering G-d or making that unit of time equal to him.

    So that
    Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

    1Co_2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

    Jas_2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not G-d chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

    If you are basing your faith on how old is the Earth you are falling short of the Glory of G-d.

  12. This topic is very hard and controversial to speak about. Thanks a lot! Cheers!


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