Monday, June 02, 2014

"Your Free To Hold Religious Beliefs--But Don't Practice Them."

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Jack Phillips is a master cake maker, he is also a biblical Christian.

This is not the first time we've heard this story, but Friday's ruling goes beyond what we have seen in the past in attacking religious freedom, freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

It is a revealing moment, affirming what many of us had already sensed. It is a defining moment in regard to what homosexual activists are demanding and government is enforcing.

President Obama and his people have recently changed the narrative on this issue, repeatedly using the words "freedom of worship" rather than "freedom of religion."

The ruling against Jack Phillips reveals what they mean by "freedom of worship."

Their words and the actions that follow are chilling to anyone who values religious freedom, religious expression and freedom of speech.

Here's what happened last Friday.

In 2012, David Mullins and Charlie Craig came into Jack Phillip's Masterpiece Bakery in Lakewood, a suburb of Denver, and ordered a "wedding cake."

Phillips politely told the two he could not make a wedding cake for them because of his religious convictions and biblical belief on marriage. He said he would be happy to make any other kind of cake for them, but not a wedding cake.

Although marriage in Colorado is only between one man and woman---so-called same-sex "marriage" is banned, the two men insisted. Jack said he couldn't do it and referred them to another bakery.

They became angry and filed suit.

Last December, a Colorado judge ruled that the Christian baker has to make cakes for ceremonies, regardless of his own personal beliefs and he has to prove that he has done so.

In January, attorney's with Alliance Defending Freedom appealed the decision on behalf of Phillips.

Friday the state Civil Rights Commission ruled.

Given the recent history regarding the photographer in New Mexico, the bakers in Gresham, Oregon and the Flower Shop in Richland, Washington, to name a few, the Commission's ruling was not surprising, but their words were revealing---particularly in view of the words President Obama and his administration have begun to use recently.

The 7-member Commission ruled unanimously that the civil rights statute trumps religious freedom and freedom of expression.

You can discriminate against Christians because of their biblical faith, but you cannot discriminate or even choose not to participate in affirming a sexual behavior that homosexuals now use as an identity.

Homosexuality is a behavior, not an ethnicity. It is not a civil right, and it is not equivalent to ethnicity, but Americans have bought into the deception.

In this ruling, the government Commission went well beyond the verbal attacks that have come with the other rulings against religious freedom.

ADF had said, "Every artist must be free to create work that expresses what he or she believes, and not be forced to express contrary views. The First Amendment protects our freedom to speak on any issue without fear of punishment by the government."

The Founding Fathers also expressed the same sentiment and held the same understanding of the First Amendment.

The judge disagreed in January and the Commission disagreed last Friday.

Raju Jairam, vice-chair of the Commission says, "Any person doing business in Colorado has to recognize that they have to do business in an ethical and law abiding way."

The Commission and the judge is saying the state's anti-discrimination law trumps freedom of religion and religious expression.

However, it is the words of vice-chair Raju Jairam and the Commission ruling that is very chilling. It says religious liberty does not go beyond beliefs to practice.

He said, "I can believe anything I want, but if I'm going to do business here, I'd ought to not discriminate against people."

In this statement, the message to biblical Christians is "You can believe anything you want to believe, but don't try to practice it outside the walls of your church in the public market."

By refusing to affirm and celebrate a sexual behavior because of your biblical beliefs will no longer be tolerated outside your church building.

Recently President Obama and others in his administration have begun using the term " freedom of religious worship" in place of "freedom of religion."

"Worship" is more related to activities within your church building. "Freedom of religion" or "freedom of expression" more to activities in public.

Our cultural history has always worked on the premise that people could live out their faith in the culture.

This change in words reflect the secular progressive's view, not of where we have been in regard to religious freedom, but where we are going in the march toward "remaking America" and attempting to usher in the philosophical "New Age" or "New World Order."

The Commission has ordered Phillips to "stop discriminating against gay people," document any customers he refuses to serve, provide "anti-discrimination training for his staff and report quarterly for 2 years."

The homosexual men who filed the suit say they are "thrilled."

Jack Phillips says, "I will stand by my convictions until somebody shuts me down."

And he says thank you to the incredible support he is seeing from the Christian community. He says the bakery has been overwhelmed by support.

However, the homosexual attack has begun. They are publicly calling him a "disgusting pig" and those who support him disgusting pigs. And much worse.

They are saying publicly, "If he were a real Christian, none of this would be an issue."

The 2% of Americans who practice a behavior the Bible calls sin, are, along with their allies in the White House and other morally confused political leaders, not only redefining marriage and the culture, but now attempting to redefine what it means to be a Christian.

Can we continue to remain silent? And cloistered in our church buildings telling one another Christians should not "become involved in politics?"---While we exercise "freedom of worship?"

How far are we from being told it is "intolerant" and proselytizing to share our faith in Christ, and therefore illegal?

Our military personal are being told that already. Will it be discriminatory to share Jesus Christ with an atheist? A Hindu, Muslim or Buddhist? I believe we are on the threshold of those kinds of laws, unless....

And what will we tell Christ when he reminds us that He told us to go into all the world and share the gospel to every creature? Will "I didn't want to get involved in 'politics' be sufficient?"

This past Friday evening, Sarah Palin told a crowd, "It is time to stop President Barack Obama's 'fundamental transformation of America' and turn it around to a 'fundamental restoration'."



  1. It's interesting when the homosexual oriented folks came out of the closet, and now in force with no restraints, the church went in and has stayed in and now look at the problems! The church is being forced to make a decision about staying in the closet or coming out and staying and praying this nation back to proper behavior.

  2. Should a Christian baker be allowed to refuse a wedding cake for a Jewish couple? Or, should he be allowed to refuse a wedding cake for a couple where one or both have previously been divorced?

    Both are "sins" in the eyes of the Christian church. I'm curious to hear your answers.

    1. I don't think a legitimate judge would rule in favor of a baker who refused to provide a cake for a Jewish couple on the grounds that he believes all Jewish weddings are morally wrong.

      If he refused because the Jewish couple wanted two grooms on a cake I believe the judge should side with the baker.

      If the baker believes all weddings between couples where there is a matter of divorce, I personally believe the baker's beliefs should be honored even if he is wrong about that.

      Why can't the couple simply say to the baker, "Though we disagree with you on this matter, we understand your position, and it seems to us that you believe we are engaging in a sinful matter, and you do not wish to have any part in that. Therefore we will go to another baker, but before we do, we would like to talk with you about this matter, if you are willing, and if not, we will go our separate ways in peace." ?

      Why do we think we have to sue people over such things, or force them to agree with what we think is morally right? Why not just live and let live instead?

    2. I can think of no place in the Bible that says serving a Jewish couple would be a sin or that a Jewish couple is a sin. Whatever gave you that stupid idea. Divorce, is not directly a sin. The reason for it might be but God allows divorce because of the hardness of our hearts. Homosexuality, however is a sin. Homosexual marriage promotes sin. Promoting homosexual marriage is evil.

    3. God Bless Jack Phillips! May God reward you and be your re-reward.
      May he come in like a flood and remove such threats against you and establish his justice in the land by Jesus Christ.

      America needs a cleansing.

    4. I hope people will be able to tell a judge, "Your Honor, I just don't do that kind of work for anybody, not even a judge."

    5. I'm reminded of Daniel, and Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

    6. I believe this judge is misusing his position of authority. He's bullying.

    7. This oppression by worldly judges has to stop.

    8. When a judicial branch of the government falters, isn't it an opportunity for another branch of the government to take a stand? If it's a state matter, wouldn't it be wonderful if a governor called a meeting and invited the press and the baker, florist, and photographer, or others who in like manner have found the need to stand up for their rights against tyranny, give that kind of speech before senators and such, and hope it gets on the news?

      I sure would like to see a baker, florist, and a photographer get honored at the next state of the union address. I think that would be timely and would do a lot of good for the nation.

    9. "That's right... these people, (the baker, florist, and photographer) know what it's like to be bullied..."

    10. What do you think would be right in these situations?

    11. 8:06

      Waaaaah! Would you like some cheese with that?


      Actually, it's not a sin to be a Jew. As for divorce, it depends on the circumstances, which are clearly spelled out in Scripture. If the person(s) come in announcing they are in violation of those circumstances, then yes, the baker is free to refuse to serve them.

      Craig in Lacey

    12. Of course, not a single person answered the question.

      It doesn't matter if you think divorce or being Jewish is a sin. That is not the question. Some Christians believe both are a sin. Some Christians believe being gay is a sin. Some do not.

      Again, if a Christian baker believes being anything but Christian is a sin, or that being divorced is a sin, should he be able to refuse to bake a wedding cake to previously divorced or Jewish newlyweds?

    13. I did answer the question, you just don't like the answer.

      You're right, it doesn't matter what I think. It matters what God's word says and do I follow it or not. Jesus said the only circumstance for divorce is marital unfaithfulness, otherwise it's sin. I didn't make that up, go read it yourself

      The Bible doesn't state anywhere that being a Jew is a sin.

      Since God's word is the final authority, I'll go with that,

      Again, if someone comes into a Christian baker's shop and announces that their divorce was for any reason other than marital unfaithfulness and wants a wedding cake, he is able to refuse to serve him.

      Which is what I said the first time.

      Craig in Lacey

    14. Craig, you HALF answered the question, leaving the half about religious discrimination untouched and hiding behind your opinion that being Jewish is not a sin.

      Again, should a Christian baker be able to deny a wedding cake to any couple because of their religion (say, if they are Jewish, Mormon, etc.) while continuing to offer the cakes to Christian couples? It's an easy question.

    15. 2:38

      Are you being deliberately obtuse or what? I answered the whole original question that you asked. Being Jewish is a nationality, it's no more a sin than being French, German, Nigerian or Chinese.

      That's not my opinion, again nowhere in the Bible is being a Jew condemned as being a sin, nor is being a Gentile (anything other than a Jew) condemned as being a sin. Being Jewish is not a religion, being a fellower of Judaism is, they can be any nationality.

      This is what happens when a biblically ignorant person spouts off about things they know nothing about. Please do some research before commenting, lest you again make a fool of yourself.

      Matthew 19:8-9 Jesus replied "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of the hardness of your hearts. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfullness, and marries another woman commits adultery." Christians are called to not promote or facilitate sin, therefore; the baker is free to refuse service in such a situation.

      End of story.

      Craig in Lacey

  3. Every Judge that rules against business's right to choose their associations must be impeached.

  4. "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason whatsoever."

  5. The judge and the commission have been had. In truth a man discriminates against no one, if there is some work he refuses to do, and that same work he refuses to all regardless of race, creed, or color, or whatever, and that work might just be putting two grooms on a cake, or joining in, by participating in homosexual weddings by taking some active part in it by some kind of service.

    If they refuse taking part in some kind of service regardless of race, creed, color, sex, height, weight, or whatever, they have discriminated unjustly against no one, for they have treated all men equally.

    Please, you judges and commissions, return to common sense. Have mercy on America.

  6. The title is misspelled, the first word should be, YOU'RE--short for "you are."


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