Friday, June 19, 2009

City of Seattle to "Investigate" Philip Irvin

R-71 UPDATE: Thank you for the encouraging reports we are receiving from so many of you who are circulating petitions. From your reports, it appears that things are going very well, in spite of some opposition.

A 3 to 4 minute DVD will be available next week with a message from Representative Matt Shea and Senator Val Stevens regarding the importance of signing Referendum 71. It can be shown in a church service or to small group meetings. We will also post it on this web site.

Thank you for your support of this effort.
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City of Seattle to "Investigate" Philip Irvin

The hypocrisy continues at the City of Seattle.

On June 3, we reported that Philip Irvin, a City of Seattle employee, had filed a formal public disclosure request for the names of those participating in a Seattle Public Utilities sponsored employees group called, "Lesbian, Gay, Bi-Sexual, Transgender Questioning and Friends." Irvin said they were using city resources for their activities and their names should be known.

The homosexual group immediately filed an injunction to block the release of their names. That hearing is in process.

Seattle media picked up the story, with KOMO radio news crediting Faith and Freedom as their source. The Seattle Times and others also reported on the matter.

Now, Irvin was notified yesterday, that he will be investigated by the City of Seattle.

He received a memo, notifying him of a meeting scheduled this coming Monday, the 22nd, for the purpose of investigating him.

The top line of the memo simply says: "PHILIP IRVIN---INVESTIGATION" The message is also rather simple and to the point: "Phil---this is an investigatory meeting. As a union member, it is your right to arrange to have a shop steward present during the meeting. Thank you, Sandi Fukumoto, Strategic Advisor II."

Should an employee be subjected to this kind of action because his beliefs are in conflict with the homosexual agenda? Or even because he has taken certain actions, through proper channels, because of those beliefs? Should an employee be targeted because he stands against or questions organized homosexual activities within the City of Seattle employee structure---at City expense?

We are often assured by those sponsoring anti-discrimination laws that the laws will never affect the hiring practices of churches and other faith-based organizations.

We are told that so-called "hate-crimes" legislation will have no affect on what a pastor teaches from the pulpit of his church or teachers teach in faith-based institutions regarding homosexuality.

The force of this action against an employee should give those who doubt the resolve of those who are normalizing homosexuality and re-engineering our culture, a reason to pause or re-think the matter.

These days are not business-as-usual days. These are unprecedented days which should call all people of faith to new levels of commitment to stand for traditional, biblical values.

Judge Robert Bork wrote a number of years ago in his book, "Slouching Toward Gomorrah," that he felt the culture may be lost. He concluded that if it is to be saved, people must be informed and inspired to have the will to resist.

For the sake of our children and our grand children and the freedom to express our religious beliefs, I sincerely hope people will be educated to what is happening in our culture and have the will and the courage to resist. And I pray pastors will lead.

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Gary Randall
President
Faith & Freedom

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13 comments:

  1. What a bunch of hysterics over nothing much. From the content of that memo, neither you nor Irvin have any idea what this investigation is about. Yet that doesn't stop Irvin from whining to you about it, and you putting it out to the public in an attempt to paint Irvin as a martyr for the cause of anti-gay bigotry.

    Seems to be entirely possible that another employee used their right to file some sort of complaint against Irvin (as he himself is fond of doing against other employees). Now wouldn't City Light have an obligation investigate any charges made against Irvin - just as they would charges against any employee? Or do you think that holding anti-gay views should provide one with an a priori assumption of innocence in ALL matters, making an investigation of charges "persecution"?

    Given that you presume, entirely without evidence, that this is some sort retaliation against Irvin, for his actions in regard to LGBT fellow employees - actions which were they directed at Christian employee you would term harassment-, I think it's safe to assume you believe the latter. Not because it's true or the evidence supports it, but because you find it politically expedient.

    This fact is confirmed by the wild leaps of "logic" required to tie this to anti-discrimination law and hate crimes legislation. I wasn't aware that Irvin is not only a City employee, but apparently also a Church or faith-based organization and a pastor. I guess once you've abandoned facts and the truth for spin there are no limits.

    John Colgan
    Seattle

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  2. Once again, you run off at the mouth before you know what you're talking about. You're jumping to a lot of conclusions about the intent of the city and the purpose of the meeting.

    HR departments in organizations like the City of Seattle are pretty cautious in their actions. They don't punish people for political beliefs. They do enforce policy. And, surprise, they actually investigate before they accuse. This protects the innocent. Something you might learn from, Gary!

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  3. I find it interesting that we hear
    the name of a man, Philip Irvin,
    but we do not hear of any name or names of those who might be using city resources for whatever activities they were involved in.

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  4. Mr. Colgan. There is much more than is being said here behind this case. Few assumptions have been made.

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  5. 11:35 AM,

    Gee, I'm convinced by your anonymous post.

    JC

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  6. Are we to believe that the same city, which is spending thousands of dollars arguing Irvin's case in court in his attempt to get the names of LGBT employees for the purposes of harassment, is persecuting Irvin?

    Sorta takes the wind out of Gary's "poor poor persecute Christians" shtick.

    http://www.seattlepi.com/local/407386_pdr19.html

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  7. Given all the information from internal emails that is showing up on this blog, I think it would be appropriate to file a public records request to see if Mr Irvin is sending private emails of a political nature through the City email system, using taxpayer funded city resources. Surely, FFN will support me in this effort.

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  8. If a certain group is doing a good thing, I should think that they would be more than happy to make a public statement as to what
    their objectives are and what they hope to accomplish if indeed they believe their cause is good and just and will stand before all
    powers that might come against it to judge it or try to overthrow it's reasoning.

    If a thing is of God, shouldn't it
    stand, and shouldn't it come out in the open and declare it's case?

    Why should it be afraid, unless they haven't been able to get the group together on something sound
    that could stand the test of any
    power or reason that might come against it?

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  9. I feel sorry for those who live in the seattle area, as far as your futue is concerned. The dormant volcanoes above you all. What do you think when God decides enough is enough? Perverted you have become thinking it truth when its the opposite. You are destroying yourselves(the perverted). Call me prejudiced because of my way of thinking. Its just sad what we have become.

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  10. Hmmm appears as if the thought police are at work in Seattle.

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  11. There may be times when we wonder where the hand of God is. At times we might wonder, "Where is His judgment?". Yet the mercy of God is to deal with man according to his sins, to make his way hard
    and bitter. Sometimes His judgment
    is to let man go on in his sins,
    that he might be destroyed because
    of his backwardness.

    Best at such times, to ask for his mercy.

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  12. Mr. Irvin is a living epistle.

    I'm reminded by his statements how
    Jesus said that a house divided against itself can not stand, and
    that Satan can not cast out Satan.

    God be with him, more power to him, in Jesus' name.

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  13. Jesus Said in Matthew 7:1 "Those who judge without Mercy shall be Judged Mercilessly" He also said in John 13:34-35 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are MY disciples, if you have love for one another"

    I ask where the love is in Phil Irvin harassing a group of people who leave him alone. Where is the love in Phil Irvin's heart that he feels it necessary to disrupt their lives and damn them to hell in a meeting set up for them to be supportive of each other?

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    Also Gary I hate to say this but your calling it rank hypocrisy for a group to use the legal avenues available to block a public disclosure request that was filed a full month and a half before the group that is publishing the names of the people who sign R71 is totally misleading. The gay community doesn't have a hive mind where all of them know everything that is going to happen especially with fringe groups. When the Seattle Employees elected to file the injunction it was a full week prior to the whosignedit.org people announced their intent. They are paying for the injunction out of their personal pocket and Phil Irvin's request is being SUPPORTED by the city attorney's office and paid for by tax payers.

    Now since you and Phil are incensed by the decision of whosignedit.org to threated to publish the names of the signers of R71 isn't it a bit hypocritical of you or at least Phil to have requested the names of the gay group a full month and a half before anyone knew that whosignedit.org were going to do this and then cry hypocrite. One more statement of Jesus in regards to your own hypocrisy.

    Matthew 7:3-5 (Jer) "Why do you observe the splinter in you brother's eye and never notice the plank in your own? How dare you say to your brother, 'Let me take the splinter out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own? Hypocrite! Take the plank out of your own eye first, and then you will see clearly enough to take the splinter out of your brother's eye."

    And in Closing

    "Romans 2:1-3 (Phi) Now if you feel inclined to set yourself up as a judge of those who sin, let me assure you, whoever you are, that you are in no position to do so. For at whatever point you condemn others you automatically condemn yourself, since you, the judge, commit the same sins. God's judgment, we know, is utterly impartial in its action against such evil-doers. What makes you think that you, who so readily judge the sins of others, can consider yourselves beyond the judgment of God?"

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