Thursday, September 09, 2010

Islam's Big Lie

While the name of the proposed Ground Zero mosque continues to evolve---Cordoba House, Park 51 Project, Community Center, did I hear Interfaith Center? One thing is certain' people have strong feelings about it.

Should those strong feelings result in burning Korans? No. I don't think that is a proper response. While it is an exercise of freedom and an expression of outrage in general, it is not the right thing to do. A child's tantrum gets a lot of attention, but rarely gets the desired results.

However, appeasement is also not the appropriate response. Early America learned that lesson from the Barbary Wars and the action we finally took is referenced in the Marine Corps Hymn which begins with the verse, "From the Halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli."

There is a long history of Muslims building mosques as something other than merely a place to worship. There is also theological justification for lying to "infidels" while they do it.

America's first national encounter with Islam was when hostile Muslim-Arab pirates from the Barbary Coast of North Africa, without provocation, attacked and ransomed ships from Europe and the United States. Sidi Haji Abdrahaman used quotes from the Koran as he explained the actions to Thomas Jefferson and John Adams in the meeting in France. ("Jefferson, American Minister In France", p. 413, The Atlantic Monthly, Volume 30, Issue 180, October 1872)

The US was paying up to $1 million annually to ensure safe passage until 1801 when Jefferson refused to continue payments. The Barbary Wars followed, which culminated in the US naval attack of Algiers.

Before this encounter and since, history records the ultimate goals of Islam as being conversion through outreach, force and subjugation, and death and destruction when necessary.

Muslim warriors have laid waste the monuments and sacred places of non-Islamic cultures, often using as building materials the rubble of temples, churches, synagogues and cemeteries they destroyed. The magnitude of destruction they inflicted on the Hindu population of India affected the Indian culture for generations. In fact the first mosque they built in India was likely built on the site of the ancient Jain temple.

Muslims converted churches to mosques as they overran Europe, long before the Crusades. They built mosques over Jewish holy sites including Rachel's tomb, the Cave of Machpelah and most significantly, the standing remains of the Temple in Jerusalem.

The Dome of The Rock, as they call their temple site mosque, was not built there because of any special significance in Islamic tradition. The Koran doesn't even mention the holy city Jerusalem.
The mosque was built there to show the Jewish people as subjects in their own land.

Triumphalism.

The same compelling reason caused Islam to rebuild the Church of St. John in Damascus as a mosque in 705 and prompted the Taliban to destroy ancient Buddhist shrines in Afghanistan in 2001.

Perhaps the most compelling evidence of Muslim triumphalism is found in the current situation in Nazareth.

The city, the largest Christian city in Israel, although it has a Muslim majority, is dominated by the black domed Basilica of the Annunciation---the largest Christian church in the Middle East. On December 21, 1997, Muslims erected a fence at the foot of the Basilica and declared it "waqf" (Muslim holy endowment). They constructed a large tent as a provisional mosque and demanded permits for the construction of a permanent mosque with a 86 meter tall minaret, which would dwarf the Basilica. It was reported that once the tent mosque was established, the Muslims proclaimed from loud speakers that anyone who wants to be certain in his life after death must convert to Muslim and if you don't get on the Islam train you're "done for."

Will the "Cordoba House"/mosque/whatever, become what the tent in Nazareth has become? A way to intimidate American infidels and serve as the symbol of Islamic supremacy and triumphalism? Does this same motivation now compel them to build a "Cordoba House" at Ground Zero?

And exactly who is going to be funding the "Cordoba House"?

Does common sense, given the history of Islam, suggest that this Muslim Center, whatever it is called, would be tantamount to planting an enemy's flag at a military cemetery where the battle dead are buried?

Evidently Mayor Bloomberg, Nancy Pelosi, President Obama and others who support the building of the mosque at Ground Zero are ignoring the Muslim practice of taqiyya, as well as history itself.

Taqiyya and kitman are Muslim practices, taught in the Koran, to conceal the real intentions of Muslims while they are living in an "infidel" land. We call it telling a lie.

Christians and Jews are guided by ethical principles---Judeo-Christian principles, that consider lying to be a sin. Muslim theology teaches that lying against unbelievers or infidels, is a virtue.

Americans familiar with history, understand that the significance of the initial choice to call the mosque "Cordoba House" relates directly to the great mosque built in Spain following the Muslim conquest that was called "Cordoba House".

Cordoba House was built on the foundations of a Christian cathedral.

Mayor Bloomberg said recently, in defending the building of the mosque, "Of course, it is fair to ask the organizers of the mosque to show some special sensitivity to the situation, in fact their plan envisions reaching beyond their walls and building an interfaith community. By doing so, it is my hope that the mosque will help bring our city even closer together, and help repudiate the false and repugnant idea that the attacks of 9/11 were in any way consistent with Islam."

Taqiyya.

Joseph Puder, in his column, "
Deadly Deceit," describing taqiyya says, "Mayor Bloomberg of New York and President Obama have either opted to ignore the Islamic practice of taqiyya ...or are simply blissfully ignorant of them."

Mayor Bloomberg's statement is equivalent to a European leader who once met with Hitler at a train station, returned home, and told his countrymen, "everything is under control."

Be Vigilant. Be Prayerful.

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23 comments:

  1. Thank you again for this excellent 2 part series. This muslim practice of outright LYING is culturally inconsistent with our Christian-based ideals. Thus it is hard for many of us to recognize the fact that nothing can be taken at face value with these folks. As the saying goes, their lips are moving - it must be a lie.

    Actions speak louder than words, and as we have seen in the case of Iran, Truthfulness is rare, and unraveling the truth is difficult if not impossible. This - on the day of discovering a "new" Iranian uranium enrichment facility buried in the mountains 80 miles from Baghdad. hmmm - they call the place 311 - I just wonder if that is a DATE!

    If you believe, as Bloomburg does, that these guys are a benign, peaceful people, then go and live in Iran for a few years.

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  2. OK, we get that you don't like the Muslims and you think their motives are bad, but you still haven't demonstrated any harm to to anyone. People will be offended, sure, but not harmed. I prefer to stand by the Constitution on this one.

    Also, just as Christianity has different sects with different beliefs, so do Muslims. This particular sect is to Al Queda as the Unitarians are to your followers. These are not the people to be afraid of. Their Imam has helped the FBI with counter terrorism. They are not friendly with Al Queda.

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  3. We live in a wimpish culture and unless we regain our collective backbone, we will lose to the Muslim and they will finally overrun the West. Europeans, Brits, and us Americans were at one time very tough people and pushed back the Muslims. Spain expelled the Muslims allowing for Christopher Comlumbus to travel west. Dracula (yes, he was real and a Romanian haro) was a prince that kept the Muslims at bay. Austria almost fell to the Muslims and the Austrian fought back. What happened to us?

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  4. You did not post my longer response this morning. But I hope you will post this shorter version:

    As expected, you failed to live up to your own religious freedom test from yesterday. Yesterday, you said it is religious PRACTICE that can be curtailed, while religious BELIEF cannot. You brought up the example of the church where members believe in divine healing. Members who kept medical assistance from their children were prosecuted, but not all of the church members who held the same BELIEFS. Because only when specific individuals perform a specific PRACTICE do they encounter the boundary of religious freedom, but we do not restrict individuals for simply holding a BELIEF.

    Regarding the community center in NYC, you reject Muslim BELIEFS as you describe them, but you have not pointed out any specific PRACTICE performed by any of these leaders of the community center that would warrant a restriction of their religious freedom, including their right to build a community center in NYC. You may suppose all you want what they BELIEVE – they hate America, want to kill us, etc. – but until they perform a PRACTICE that crosses the line, why must we intervene?

    As I challenged you yesterday: If you know something about the PRACTICE of these specific Muslims that warrants our intervention, please tell.

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  5. Let's suppose I was a principality or power, some kind of invisible one, and I was by relation (if not close relationship) through name, connected to burning your house down and I decided to buy property right next door to your property in order to build a tall several story house which overlooks your property, and while knowing that we have not in the past been getting along real well, (because your family and mine are different) I decided to impose on your life some more by this building project, and to properly educate you, I decided to name my house something like..."The New Neighborly &
    Kindness Education Facility."

    Now suppose you did not feel welcomed by me if I proposed to build as close to your property line as I could get away with by law, should the world at large perceive you as one who hates it's neighbors and is also contrary to kindness should you legaly protest against my actions?

    Maybe such an endeavor should be rather labled, "Hypocrisy Convention Center." or something similar....or is this simply hate speech on my part?

    Is it hate speech or do I simply want to try to wake people up to what is going on right under their noses?

    I don't like to see a government lay it's hands on hypocrisy and pronounce any kind of blessing upon it. Anyone who would do such a thing would begin to look to me like they should be wearing some kind of tall cone shaped hat with stars and planets on it and even on their robe.

    This nation is in need of Christians occupying offices throughout our government, men and women of discernment with some knowledge of the scripture. Those who are willing to do the best they can to protect our constitution, for our constitution was not written to support hypocrisy, nonsense,
    stupidity, or foolishness. Such things are contrary to this nation's constitution.

    I wish there would have been a building permit authority who would have said to himself, "Hmmm! a Mosque right next to ground zero...constitutional or not?... Should I deny them the permit on constitutional grounds, explaining my reasoning to them?...Should I suggest to them that if they their intentions are just and good, that they would include a large and clearly visible sign that reads something like, THIS BUILDING WAS BUIT HERE FOR (state such and such purposes)VERY CLOSE TO THE LOCATION OF A TERRIBLE ACT OF SENSELESS VIOLENCE WHICH COST AMERICA ABOUT 3000 LIVES. THIS ORGAINIZATION DELARES PUBLICLY THAT THE MURDEROUS ACT WHICH CAUSE THE DEATHS AT GROUND ZERO AND THE DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY, THUS DISRUPTING MANY THOUSANDS OF LIVES DIRECTLY, AND CAUSING GRIEF TO ALL OF AMERICA, WAS INDEED ACTS OF TERRORISM AND OF EVIL ITSELF. WE CALL SUCH ACTS DONE AGAINST ALL HUMANITY, DEEDS DONE OUT OF DARKNESS, BY THOSE WHO DID NOT KNOW GOD, OR HAVING ONCE KNOWN HIM, TURNED TO THE WAYS OF EVIL, EVEN SATAN HIMSELF. HAVING ENDED THEIR LIVES DOING NO GOOD, WE DENOUNCE SUCH DEEDS AND CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE, JUST PLAIN EVIL AND OF THE DEVIl, WITHOUT QUESTION, CONTRARY TO ALMIGHTY GOD WHO HAS BLESSED AND PROTECTED THIS NATION.etc.

    May his blessing be on this nation still.

    Should they make something like that public, and convince the public, I suppose they should be given a permit right where they like to build. At least, where would the argument be that would be the answer of "NO", on constitutional grounds?

    I suppose it could only still be a "NO" if they were not yet able to convince the public that their sincerity is real, and truly for the good of all people.

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  6. I think the letter before last missed the point. If a
    scorpion lands on your lap: Do you (1) Wait for it to
    sting you or (2) Knock it off your lap. The U.S. Constitution
    is not a SUICIDE pact. I have no problem with Muslims building
    a mosque per se, but let's have some sensitivity here, move it
    a couple miles down the road. It does not HAVE to be built
    at ground zero, that's all I'm saying. C,Lacey

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  7. Ken Burres, Sequim, WA
    You should be more careful about your assertions of fact. The Qur'an does speak of Jerusalem, and the site of the Dome of the Rock does have a great significance for Islam. Although Jerusalem is not mentioned by name, 17:1 speaks of the famous "Night Journey" of Muhammad to Jerusalem: ". . . a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque, which is the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. The Hadith adds great detail about this journey. In the outcropping of rock which is sheltered by the Dome of the Rock, a depression in the rock is believed by Muslims to be the footprint of Muhammad at the spot where he ascended into heaven.

    At 17:5, the words "We sent against you Our servants given to terrible warfare: They entered the very inmost parts your homes, and it was a warning (completely) fulfilled" is interpreted by Muslim scholars as a reference to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians in 586 B.C In 17:7 the saying "When the second of the warnings came to pass, (We permitted your enemies to disfigure your faces, and to enter your Temple as they had entered it before, and to visit with destruction all that fell into their power" is clearly a reference to the destruction of the Temple by the Romans in A.D. 70.

    In addition, we should not forget that during the Meccan phase of his mission, Muhammad instructed his followers to pray facing Jerusalem. It was only after his warfare against the Jews in Medina that he instructed his followers to pray facing the Ka'aba in Mecca.

    You are right, however, in this respect: the building of the Dome of the Rock on the site of the Temple was indeed an expression of triumphalism. What I am pointing out is that is much more than that.

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  8. @9:36 PM, C, Lacey:

    If you truly believe that all Muslims are like attacking bugs, and that we should knock them off our laps (arrest them? restrict their freedoms? banish them?) before they actually do anything resembling a crime, then I don't think we'll get anywhere in this conversation.

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  9. With unrelenting tears and eternal grief I join tomorrow in commemorating the senseless and barbarous slaughter of our fellow human beings. In addition to NYC, perhaps Imam Rauf would consider another mosque at Boston's Logan Airport. Hey, why not? For the Religion of Peace, I'm sure there is also available land in PA. Might have a tough time securing space at the Pentagon, though.

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  10. Mimi,

    They already have prayer space in the Pentagon. Just feet from the actual crash site. It's a prayer room - very similar to the one that would be in cultural center in MY. That's right, Muslims are praying in a prayer room in the Pentagon daily.

    Of course, it's a non-denominational prayer room so people of many faiths (including Christians) use it regularly. Apparently the Pentagon understands that the Muslims that work there aren't part of Al Queda. They aren't a threat any more than any of the thousands Muslims currently serving you and me in the military.

    You can't broad brush Islam any more than you can Christianity.

    Mark in Tigard

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  11. 12:58,9/10/10, Anonymous

    I'm talking about the people who follow the Korans teaching that lying is a virtue to further the conquest of a nation or people. As Gary has shown to be a pattern. The building of a mosque very near Ground Zero smacks of triumphalism. Did
    America erect a statue of MacArthur in Tokyo or Patton in Berlin? Again, I have no problem with anyone building a mosque,but lets have some sensitivity and common sense here.
    Don't stick your finger in my eye! Move the complex down the road. If the builders are truly peaceloving, don't they understand the symbolism. Don't they understand why people are upset about this. Don't you? C, Lacey

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  12. Mimi,

    There already is a "mosque" at the Pentagon! There has been a Muslim prayer room, which is what people like Gary have been using to justify terming the community center @Park 51 a "mosque" for years now. This is why I cannot join in the opposition to Park 51, it seems the majority of it's opponents are either misinformed or simply uninformed and proud of the fact.

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  13. This evening on the TV news I heard the pastor from Florida called a hatemonger and I looked up the word in a dictionary.

    In my dictionary a hatemonger is defined as a propagandist who seeks to provoke...etc.

    I wonder, are they calling the gospel propagana? Is that what it is in their eyes?

    I wonder what would happen if a man announced publicly that counterfeiting money is of the Devil and that he intends to burn any counterfeit money that people might bring in.

    Who but a conterfeiter would call him a hatemonger and what would be the propagana, that real money is better than fake money?

    Something the pastor said was "before it's too late.", as if he could see the threat of loosing our constituional right to protest against what we believe to be wrong, harmful, misrepresentative of the truth, deceptive, or wrong.

    It's been said that if we don't use our rights we could loose them. I wonder how heavily that weighed on his mind. I would like to hear him speak freely about all that is upon his heart in this matter.

    We seem to live in a time when outlandish ways one done seem to become the norm, as if people say to themselves, "Well, if it's done, I guess it must be OK, or acceptable, or even right."

    If we live in a time when people do not hear through discussions, dialog, or reasoning, because of the hardness of heart, grace be unto us if God should speak in other ways.

    I wonder if his zeal carried the man to purpose to do what he had planned. I wonder if it was zeal of his own house or that of another man's.

    I do believe in a new Jerusalem don't you?

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  14. Ok, I've spent a bunch of time trying to find out where the Quran says it's ok to lie. I can't find it.

    You folks all seem to know that it does say so, and I trust that you wouldn't just blindly repeat something you hadn't seen for yourself. So could one you please refer me to the section of the Quran that says its ok to lie to infidels?

    Otherwise, I'll have to assume that this is just more made up propaganda not based on anything real.

    btw - I have an open mind here. I really have done research, but it's possible I just missed it.

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  15. C, Lacey(although anyone sharing that position feel free to respond)

    The Park 51 site is "down the road", it's kitty-corner from the NW corner of the ground zero site, two blocks up, turn right and then in the middle of the block. If that isn't sufficient distance to appease your indignation, just what is? Exactly how distant must it be? Is South Ferry distant enough for you? What about TriBeCa? So Ho? the Village? Chelsea? the Flatiron District? Gramercy Park? Mid-town? Since you are outraged at the insensitivity of current proposed location, just what location do you propose?

    This "I'm fine with them building a mosque, just not there!" line of argument is sounding an awful lot like "jam tomorrow, jam yesterday, but never ever jam today" to me.

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  16. 8:20AM 9/12/10
    Didn't I say a couple miles? The proposed site isn't. The only
    thing I know about jam is that it goes on toast=). "Just not
    there" means yesterday, today or tomorrow. Still haven't answered my question about statues in Tokyo or Berlin? Do you understand why they weren't built? Precisely because they smack of triumphalism, whether or not that was the stated purpose for erecting them. Can you see a parallel? C, Lacey

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  17. C, Lacey,

    So what are are we talking 2 miles? three miles? Again you are the one saying it isn't distant enough, you have the obligation to define the acceptable distance. I notice you didn't pick any of the areas I mentioned, could it be because you have no idea of the layout of Manhattan?

    As for your questions about statues in Tokyo or Berlin, I didn't answer them because they are irrelevant. This is not a statue of Bin Laden or any other Al Queda member. It is a cultural center, and yes the US had built numerous culteral centers in Germany and Japan, even in Tokyo and Berlin! As for whether any of these have prayer rooms I don't know or care. There are certainly no shortage of American Evangelical missionary churches in both nations though.
    Your analogy also fails in that, unlike Japan and Germany, we are not a conquered people. Despite the hysteria of some, we are in no danger of being under sharia law.

    So no, C, I don't see the paralell, what I see is someone strechting to the point of absurdity to try and justify an indefensible position.

    Oh, and BTW, there was a prayer room (read Mosque) located on the 17th floor of the south tower of the WTC! Seems to me having a prayer room not just a few blocks away but in any new tower built at the sight is proper and right.

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  18. Last time I checked A couple was 2 and no I don't know the lay-
    out of manhattan nor do I care. They couldn't put a statue of
    Bin Laden anywhere in the U.S., Who would try? Subterfuge is a more benign road. There were evangelical churches in both countries before the American Revolution, so that proves
    nothing. We are not a conquered nation precisely because we are diligent about meeting any threat with overwhelming force
    and by being discerning about people's intentions. I pray we will remain so. Oh! The Byzantines and the Spanish and the Cossacks and the Afghans and the Indonesians, etc. saw no threat of sharia law either. How'd that work out for them?
    C. Lacey

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  19. The US will be converted to Sharia law right after gay marriage brings and end to straight marriage and procreation.

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  20. So what is the big deal. If they build this building and it turns out that it is a
    recruitment center for terrorists then close it down and prosecute those involved. If it actually is what they say it is an information and education center for moderate Islam then
    chalk one up for religious freedom , tolerance and
    Democracy that this country was founded on.
    If the building is stopped for fear of what it might be , then it can not be said that the United States is free for people to come here and have the freedom to practice their religion without fear of harassment.

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  21. The way things are going, that may not be far off!

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  22. C, Lacey.

    So let's see, we've now established that:

    1. This isn't at all comparable to a statue of the leader of opposition forces, like a Patton or MacArthur statue in Tokyo or Berlin.

    2. That this is a cultural exchange/understanding center of which Americans built numerous in Japan and Germany after the war.

    3. That US Evangelical missionary presence in Japan in Germany after the war was A-OK because there was a presence prior to the war. Much as there was a Muslim presence in the US (even at the WTC itsself) prior to 9/11.

    So, it seems that your analogy is without any parallels what so ever and completely fails.

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  23. It's a mosque with a cultural center in it, it is highly insensitive to build it there and imflammatory. Just move
    it and everybody's happy. The US Evangelical Missions never
    pretended to be anything else. That they were present before
    or after the war means nothing pertinent to the issue at hand.
    Again, NO ONE could erect a statue of a terrorist anywhere in the US,do you understand the long range planning and outlook
    of jihad? Look, I don't hold all muslims responsible for Bin
    Laden anymore than I hold all Germans responsible for Hitler,
    or Japanese for Tojo, or Russians for Stalin, etc., etc.,. Our
    country was attacked by people claiming to be killing in the name of God, it was no more right, now, than it was in times past. I'm asking for a little compassion for the relatives of those lost, who are really upset by this. Does no one care how they feel? C,Lacey

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