Wednesday, January 18, 2012

Gov. Gregoire: "Agenda Was Set Aside"

Remember the Senate hearing on marriage bill---SB 6239--- is Monday, January 23, 10 AM to Noon. Please plan to attend if at all possible.
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Governor Gregoire told Nicole Brodeur at the Seattle Times, "My agenda really was just set aside."


How so?

"You're told, 'always stay focused, always stay on your agenda'. That works on little bumps," Gregoire told Brodeur, "it doesn't work when you're overtaken by a tsunami economic crises like we have been."

Has the Governor simply given up? Is this related to why the Senate Ways and Means Committee canceled or rescheduled 4 important budget meetings this week to work on the redefining of marriage? Is it in the void of failure that the Governor has turned to a substitute agenda? Some believe it is.



"I think I have gone through some form of grieving process," the Governor said.

Failure in education, as pointed out by a recent study which concluded that there is a "policy leadership vacuum" in the state and the inability to lead effectively during this present economic down turn, is certainly reason to be discouraged. And perhaps to grieve.

But has this period of grief in the Governor's life also caused her to come to some wrong conclusions about marriage? About the teachings of her childhood, in her home and her church?

Her church, the Catholic Church, released a letter this week, strongly condemning the move to redefine marriage, saying it would "undermine family life" in the state. The Catholic bishops in the state are urging people to reject the bill and Gregoire's attempt to push it through.

Sen. Ed Murray
, who introduced the bill this past Monday said regarding the letter, "My first reaction, as a practicing Catholic, is that this is very hurtful."

While Murray is focused on himself, perhaps the Governor really is trying to do what she thinks is right. Who knows?

She says after 7 years of struggle with the issue, she now feels good about it.

If she, Murray, and other sponsors of the bill are able to redefine marriage, forever altering historic, core societal norms regarding both marriage and family, will she feel good about leaving that legacy and its consequences to her own children and grandchildren? Or will she regret walking away from the teaching of her parents and her church?

She told Brodeur it took her "three months to write a speech explaining her decision to support same-sex marriage."

That does not sound like someone who holds deep convictions on the issue.

Governor Gregoire told Brodeur that she and her husband plan to leave town for an RV road trip after she completes her term. Let's hope and pray that she reconsiders this assault on marriage and the family before leaving town.

Be Vigilant. Be Discerning. Be Prayerful. Be Blessed.

12 comments:

  1. Gary,

    With all due respect, a genuine marriage is a relationship that is joined together by God. The laws you are spending so much time and so many of God's resources fighting is nothing but a relationship that is joined together by man and simply called "marriage" but can never be regardless of the genders involved. In fact, this man-made relationship is simply a specific type of partnership contract to form a partnership entity. Ever wonder why the two people have to go to a court to get "a divorce"? Because they are unbinding the man-made partnership contract just like any other partnership contract that is in contention.

    I trust you are easily intelligent enough to see these obvious facts. Thus you and your colleagues are battling something that both does not and, in fact, cannot exist. Frankly, you have nothing to worry about - God will not bring homosexuals together in marriage - ever. What man does is irrelevant - it is NOT marriage regardless of what they want to call it. Be not deceived in this matter - Jesus called us to judge righteous judgment - and NOT to judge according to appearance.

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  2. It is a fascinating world. The real secret that domestic partners seek to keep is the actual number of those taking advantage of this law. Right now, they constitute one quarter of one percent (0.26%) of Washington residents. In Canada, where homosexual marriage has been legal for a decade the percentage is way lower: 0.006%.

    There is another critical issue that warrants a vote against both of these measures. It is important for policy makers to be able to distinguish between same-sex domestic partners and those who are heterosexual domestic partners over the age of 62 for purposes of policy-making. Should homosexual marriage be enacted, these seniors will be negatively affected as well.

    As for the Governor: to vote for same-sex marriage requires all of these legislators to rebel against their spiritual leaders/Pastors/ Priests. This should tell them something.

    Homosexual marriage is a beast that is unleashed to make war on the saints - those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ, and who keep His commandments. In places where homosexual marriage has been codified, churches have been evicted from public schools (60 in New York, last week); Catholic Adoption agencies have been required to violate their freedom of conscience to place children in homosexual homes for adoption (Mass.); pharmacists have been required to violate their freedom of conscience to refuse to sell abortion-inducing pills (Wash.); churches have been sued for refusing to perform homosexual marriages (CA); photographers have been sued for refusing to photograph homosexual marriages (NM); church members have been arrested for holding "Jesus Saves" signs at gay parades (PA - they faced 14 years in prison each); Pastors have been prosecuted for preaching on homosexuality as a sin (Norway; Canada); and of course, people of faith who oppose homosexual marriages have been the subject of hundreds of acts of violence, harassment, intimidation, and ridicule by people who claim to be operating on the basis of "love." (R-71 in WA; Prop 8 in CA).

    Homosexual marriage does serious damage to the family. Out of wedlock births in Norway have tripled since HM was adopted, and marriage among 20 somethings has plummeted from 39% in 1992 to 24% now. The divorce rate among homosexual men is 3 times higher than hetero couples, and the divorce rate among homosexual women is 8 times higher than homosexual men!

    Finally, homosexual "marriage" in Washington will not bestow one new legal right not already obtained under Washington's domestic partnership act.

    Ask yourself the question why we would do this when 1) no legal benefit is accrued, 2) tremendous damage is done to people of faith, and 3) it will further divide our social order, in order to accommodate the demands of a sub-set of 0.26% of the population.

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  3. Note that the Bishops made no bones about the fact that they consider marriage, as it exists today, to be a "special right" for heterosexual couples!

    At least the Bishops are honest about who is demanding special rights here, will Gary be as honest?

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  4. We are so thankful for your leadership in opposing the redefinition of marriage agenda and pray for your successful outcome as a result. Blessings on your efforts.

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  5. Gary, your leadership and experience as a pastor is very appreciated by me and my family. We know you take hits from those who seek to destroy the culture in rebellion against God and sometimes from those within the faith community. We want to be on record that we support you, pray for you and thank you for your stand and a clear voice for truth. We forward your comments to family and friends everyday.

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  6. Pastor E. P. Seattle1:55 PM, January 18, 2012

    Thank you Gary for the wonderful insights each day. I know there are others who share your burden and are doing some of the things Faith and Freedom does, but your insight is unequaled. God bless you and Marjorie.

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  7. It sounds like this wasn't Gregoire's emphasis until she couldn't make anything else work. How sad is that? A lot of my friends at UW do not support gay marriage and neither do I. When you hear that all the youth are behind the governor and Murray, don't believe it. Keep up the good work.

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  8. Jim

    Actually Gary is acting contrary to God's Word. God's Word is clear - marriage is that which GOD has joined together - NOT that which man has joined together. This law relates to that which MAN has joined together and is irrelevant with respect to genuine marriage (this law is simply a partnership contract creating a specific type of partnership under State law).

    Further, God's Word is clear - God will judge those without (ICor5:12,13) - NOT the Church. Gary is not only raising a red herring here he is usurping God's position by judging those without.

    So you have a choice - do you want to follow God's Word - or do you want to join with Gary in rejecting God's Word (and join with the homosexuals who do the same thing)? Your decision of course.

    Sincerely,
    Aner

    PS - I am surprised Pastor E.P. does not understand the most basic concepts of scripture and legal status. This is certainly disappointing and maybe reflects why so many church attenders are so ignorant.

    PPS Anon12:29 - You have nothing to fear - there is no such thing as homosexual marriage and will never be. God will never join homosexuals together. Please relax and enjoy your snowy day.

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  9. Right now, they constitute one quarter of one percent (0.26%) of Washington residents.
    And during the same time period that domestic partnerships have been available a mere 5.3% of Washingtonians took advantage of the civil contract of marriage. So that means so if you assume that about 2% are out gay lesbian people who would take advantage of domestic partnerships they are licensing at over twice the rate that straight people did.

    So gay Washingtonians are licensing a contract that isn't the universally transferable contract of marriage at over twice the rate that straight Washingtonians are.

    What is your complaint exactly?

    (Oh and as you should know Canadians have common law marriages nationally so there is no need to license a marriage unless you want to do so and you have the same rights regardless)

    It is important for policy makers to be able to distinguish between same-sex domestic partners and those who are heterosexual domestic partners over the age of 62 for purposes of policy-making. Should homosexual marriage be enacted, these seniors will be negatively affected as well.
    No Domestic Partnerships will still be available to those couples where one is 62 or over regardless of their gender combination.

    churches have been evicted from public schools (60 in New York, last week)
    In a lawsuit that started 16 years ago - really, gay people are just to blame for everything?
    The rest of the examples are either about merchants who want to religiously discriminate against customers, or distorted examples from other countries.

    AS to the Norway stuff, total hogwash. In the decade BEFORE civil unions (not gay marriage) the out of wedlock birth rate increased 16%, after civil unions just 11%. This is a socialist country with personal benefits - there is no practical reason to officially marry until AFTER you have a child. This is the same in Sweden (which is encouraging child birth regardless of marital status) and other Scandinavian countries.

    Why not bring up that the UK civil union dissolution rate for gay civil unions is LESS than straight marriages for those licensed since civil unions are available. Why not point out that Massachusetts has had lower divorce rates since marriage equality?

    Ask yourself the question why we would do this when 1) no legal benefit is accrued,
    Not true, the marriage contract is recognized in a number of other states and countries, the domestic partnership is not. The responsibility of the state to its citizens doesn't stop at its borders.

    2) tremendous damage is done to people of faith,
    No more so than it is to those of faith who support marriage equality and include same sex couples in their marriage blessings. AGain, you have a right to practice your religion, you don't have a right to even pretend that anyone else does.

    3) it will further divide our social order, in order to accommodate the demands of a sub-set of 0.26% of the population.

    No dividing of our social order - it is a merging allowing all married citizens with a husband and those with wives to license the same civil contract in support of their marriages.

    And that 0.26% is a significant part of the 5.5% that took advantage of the licensing with the state - why would we want to deny any citizens equal rights?

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  10. Inconceivable!! Obama just appointed a MUSLIM to be a cultural ambassador for the state department. Seriously. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar just got a state department appointment. How long until he shows up strapped to a bomb waiting to meet 72 virgins??? Not long, I would expect.

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  11. Anon 8:06 - He is already here - and my don't those virgins look great. OK - more later...;-)

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