Monday, January 16, 2012

MLK, Ken Hutcherson And The Battle To Defend Marriage

As America celebrates Martin Luther King today, I thought it would be appropriate to share a clip from Fox Q-13 news of an interview with Pastor Ken Hutcherson this past week.

The interview was about the campaign to re-define marriage in the state. During the interview, the news anchors brought up one of the homosexual's talking points which relates the civil rights struggle of Martin Luther King's time and beyond, to the homosexual agenda and their demands of today.

Ken did an excellent job of straightening them out on that and other points. Take a look at it.

Also, Gov. Gregoire's bill now has a number. It is SB 6239. She has been circulating it among law makers asking them to sign on in advance. I have linked the bill, you may want to read it. You may also want to take a look at which legislators have signed on as co-sponsors.

Gregoire's bill was posted online Friday, which probably means she will introduce it today. MLK Day.

The campaign to re-define marriage is not only trying to co-opt marriage itself but also the struggle for true civil rights by the African American community.

Be Vigilant. Be Discerning. Be Prayerful. Be Active. Be Blessed.

21 comments:

  1. Excellent defense of marraige by Pastor Hutcherson. Can we do something to get this on national FOX?

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    1. oh and of the 8 couples that filed in Andersen v King county, 5 of them registered as domestic partners and are still together.

      If you want to figure out why Fox National does use it, even they avoid highly 'inaccurate' responses.

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    2. Sorry I replied too soon - 5 of the 8 couples are registered domestic partners in Washington, 2 of the couples jointly own houses according to current property records and the final couple have moved to Washington DC and are still together.

      So of the 8 couples that filed in Andersen v King county in 2006 all of them are still together.

      "relationships that are that transient and that fluid" indeed.

      Careless speech, gossip and outright lies are still sins aren't they?

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  2. We must have watched other videos - he ignored all the laws that made gay people illegal, their forced conversion efforts, they violence that happened to them. He cunning misrepresented merchants being told they couldn't religiously discriminate in Hawaii as a religious issue when its not.

    Good thing he chickened out of his debate on gay marriage, he would have lost without a doubt.

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  3. Why is Hutcherson unwilling to engage in a formal public debate on this issue? Is he afraid his claims won't stand up to a rigorous rebuttal?

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  4. the struggle for true civil rights by the African American community

    And just who was this struggle against? Yup, the same group that's now fighting gay marriage for the same reason.

    Do a search for "biblical arguments against inter-racial marriage". It's pretty interesting. You'll see it was once the mainstream of Christianity who opposed it based on the Bible. Now, there are just a few crackpot sites advocating purity of the races, but still based on the bible.

    You see where this is going, right? Yup, this site is on track to be one of those crack pot fringe sites clinging to a long over come form of biblical discrimination. All that's missing is white colored type on a red background.

    Mark in Tigard

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  5. Oshtur. You are grossly misled. Or blind to the truth. Hutcherson did not chicken out of the debate. He ask for a larger venue, because The Stranger had packed the 800 seats available. I think you know that.

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    1. Yes I know he backed out of an engagement that he had agreed to including the venue.
      But with all the lis he told during the TV interview he would have been handed his hat anyway.

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    2. It really doesn't matter what Oshtur knows, he avoids the obvious like a plague. I can see now why others just stop posting things to refute him because reason, logic and the obvious are not his friends.

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    3. An empty reply devoid of reason, logic, or any content at all. Again, we know from the timeline of published events what Hutcherson agreed to, we need take no one's word for it. We know he lied multiple times in his Q13 interview.

      And that is really the issue isn't it? It doesn't matter how many lies those you hold up tell, you still worship them making a joke of this blog's mission statement.

      The greatest risk to Christian principles is you.

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  6. @12:27

    He backed out of a debate, when he had already agreed to all the terms, including the venue and manner of ticket distribution. Given that the tickets were offered on a first come first serve basis and was announced by Hutcherson and the Stranger simultaneously, any claims that the Stranger packed the audience are dubious at best. But then again, I guess dubious claims are what we should expect from a group, whose leader invent quotes - putting words in their opposition's mouths- and flat out lie about the relationships of their opponents.

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  7. Pastor Hutcherson mentioned the religious discrimination event in Hawaii. Now I find another one in New Jersey.
    http://creationrevolution.com/2012/01/courts-say-christian-church-not-allowed-to-practice-christianity/

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    1. Both incidence where merchants who are leasing out a space for public rental want to religiously discriminate against customers. At neither location were the merchants required or even asked to perform any religious service.

      Again people have a right to practice THEIR religion, they have no right to require customers to practice their religion.

      Why is that so hard to understand?

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  8. I don't blame him for backing out based on what I saw in the interview. His only argument for opposition is based on his personal religious beliefs. Even the friendly anchors on the fox station seemed to have a bit of an issue with basing law on that.

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    1. So what in your wildest dreams do you think LAW is based upon? Your good feelings? Huh? Where in the world has all civil law come from? The Bible of course. What other? Where else do you find what is right and what is wrong?

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    2. Our law is primarily based on pagan Roman and Anglo-Saxon roots. Point of fact only 3 of the 10 commandments are even legal in America!

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    3. How sad that you can't think for yourself and need someone to tell you what's right and wrong. Murder, stealing, etc is a no no in every social structure I'm aware of, whether they've seen the bible or not.

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  9. Gary and all his disciples can calm down - this bill has nothing to do with "marriage". Scripture is clear - marriage is that which God has joined together. This bill has to do with that which MAN JOINS TOGETHER. Just because they use the same words doesn't mean a thing. Jesus called us to judge righteous judgement - not according to appearance as Gary is doing. This bill has to do with a specific type partnership law - nothing more.

    BTW - I am aware that Gary would not have a ministry left if it wasn't for homosexual marriage so self interest could be a reason for continuing in this delusion and deception of of his disicples.

    However, the case is now clear based on teh Word of God. Gary and everyone else can relax and go home. Lots more in the Word of God than that!!

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  10. This bill has to do with that which MAN JOINS TOGETHER. Just because they use the same words doesn't mean a thing.

    Anonymous, I'm going to assume you're being serious here. On one level you're right: the same words don't have to mean the same thing. And if all the homosexuals want to do is call themselves married, then that's their prerogative. My aunt is a Unitarian minister and performs "wedding" ceremonies for such couples all the time. If that's what they want, fine. God can work it out with them at His leisure.

    But if they expect to make me call them married, that's another matter. And there's no way in [eternal perdition] my church will ever recognize them as married. That's our prerogative. And I don't believe for a minute that these activists will leave us alone to exercise it.

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    1. This isn't anything new - do you have any example of a church that has been forced to perform or recognize a same sex union? I follow the news and don't know of a single instance.

      The ones misrepresented as that are about merchants that publicly rent spaces and then try to religiously discriminate, or non-profits licensed by the state that are required to follow state non-discrimination laws and were found to be discriminating due to sexual orientation (the Catholic adoption agency was like that - before marriage equality was passed the organization hadn't discriminated against gay couples, and then afterwards they started to - it was a political move.)

      And in Washington it just can't happen - the state has always exempted religious non-profits from having to follow civil rights laws and this bill deliberately reinforces that protection.

      Why would Washington be the very first place in the world to not 'leave you alone' when its the one that most protects your right to be 'left alone'?

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  11. @Joel - Thanks for your response. It is not a matter of being "serious", I am simply stating the facts. The law has nothing to do with "marriage" - the state law that uses the word "marriage" is simply creating a specific type of partnership entity via a contract (which is why you have to go to court when you "divorce" which is simply a legal breaking of the contract and winding up of the entity. It could be a corporation I suppose but it is in this instance a partnership entity.

    Frankly, I don't care what people call what - I only care about what God says - and what God says has NOTHING to do with this law. We are called to judge the church - NOT the world (ICor5:12,13). We need to stop wasting our time with enriching religious individuals who are using these illusions to work the saints up - it is a complete deception.

    Again - all I am stating is the simple reality - nothing more. You have a choice whether to follow Christ - the living Word of God - or to keep beating the wind.

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