Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Military Atheists Want Equality, Affirmation And Acceptance

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The Military Association of Atheists and Free Thinkers is offering "alternatives to church" programs and meetings during training at US military bases this summer.

One class is titled, "Letting Go of God."

They are introducing this program with the hope of normalizing the ideas, affirming their belief in non-belief, and gaining official recognition or acceptance, then making it a regular component in the military academies. That, of course, could lead to it becoming a part of the military presentations in high schools and college campus' as well as an accepted program on all military bases.

They say they are trying to create a more "welcoming" religious climate in the military.

Cadets and Midshipmen already have opportunity to meet in humanist secular programs, this would be taking atheism to the next level in our military.


This is deceptive. Under the guise of equality, etc., these folks have a very different agenda.


Chaplin Gordon James Klingenschmitt, a former Navy chaplain, says this call for diversity is really an attempt by atheists to terminate Christian chaplains and indoctrinate young men and women.

He told the Christian Post, "I think it's sad how atheists are using a government forum and resources to openly recruit Christian cadets into atheism or secular humanism."

The atheist leaders say no, all they want is acceptance, affirmation and equality, like the Christians, Jews and sports teams have.

"Welcoming." "Equality." "Affirmation." "Acceptance." Do these words sound familiar?

Of course they do. They are the mantra of those who seek to redefine the culture and destroy the very foundations upon which the greatest nation in history has been built.

Redefine Faith and Family, and Freedom is lost.

It was Marcus Tullius Cicero, a Roman lawyer, who told his nation :

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

It was President Abraham Lincoln who told this nation America would never be conquered by those enemies across the sea, but if we were ever to fall, it would be from those enemies within.

Be Vigilant. Be Discerning. Be Prayerful. Be Active. Be Blessed.


  1. I find it humorous that a blog that in a previous entry just quoted Thomas Paine, famous for saying Christianity was 'the study of nothing', and then having faux outrage that religious freedom is alive and well in the United States military.

    I got my dogtags in 1973 and still have them here at my desk with the word 'NONE' as my religious affiliation. People without religions have just as much right to spiritual support in the military as anyone else, always have.

    This is just continuing the American traditions that founded this country, its intractable religious fundamentalism that will destroy it.

  2. Atheists want to hold a class about atheism, and that's called "indoctrination." Yet this blog and others like it want to force all of America's citizens to adhere Christian values through the force of law, and that's called .... what?

    Such hypocrisy...

  3. humorous and hypocrisy. Atheists didn't found or build this country into the greatest country in history. We just don't want them to destory it either. Get it?

    1. So, you don't believe in freedom of religion. I get it.

  4. Atheists didn't found or build this country into the greatest country in history.
    Thomas Paine? Thomas Jefferson? part of the 'Free Thought' movement of which Deism is just a universe that had a creator and then everything from there on is the same as atheism?

    Again, this country was founded on religious diversity and that included atheism. Atheism is about making up your own mind, hardly indoctrination - mindless acceptance of silliness comes from your side of the fence. That is what our country was founded to stand against, its sudden resurgence is a sign of the end more than anything. Remember it was ascendency of Christianity that caused 600 year Roman Empire to fall.

    1. Nice try, Oshtur. Our country was founded on the general principles of Christianity, not the Church of England, not Calvinism, not Lutheranism, not Catholicism, it was founded on Christ.

      That's what the 1st Amendment is about, no State imposed denomination. It's why we have a diversity of religious beliefs, free will.

      During the writing of the DOI, meetings were opened with prayer, same with the Constitutional Convention, same with the writing of the Bill of Rights. Every battle fought for the independence of our nation was opened with prayer, people pray to a God that doesn't care, who wound everything up like a clock and then left? I think not. You can try as you might to revise our history. it won't change and it's there for any to search it out.

      Mindless silliness? LOL!!! You mean like that you evolved from slime? or was it an amoeba? an ape? With absolutely NO scientific verification of Darwin, look whose talking. What our country was founded agaist was man seating himself in the place of God. Sound familiar? That's atheism, whether it's the King of England or the Pope or you.

      Remember, " the fool says in his heart, there is no God."

      The Roman Empire fell because of its depravity, it rotted from within. That started long before Christianity was legal.

      Craig in Lacey

  5. Nice try, Oshtur. Our country was founded on the general principles of Christianity,
    You mean Love God, Love your neighbor as God loves you? The right to accept or reject Christianity and still be treated with love and compassion? Those Christian principles? If you guys followed them this blog would have no purpose.

    During the writing of the DOI, meetings were opened with prayer,

    Really? You do know that the DOI has a sole author, Thomas Jefferson. You do know we have the actual draft that he passed around for suggestions, written in his own hand with edits? You know all they did was REMOVE parts like the condemnation of slavery? Go read it online, the scan of the original document is viewable to all.

    As to the myth surrounding Ben Franklin's proposal of opening with a prayer, that was done by the clever Franklin to wear the speakers out who had been acrimonious. At the end of the day they decided that it would be inappropriate. Yes I know one delegate crafted a long fiction after the fact but that was refuted by James Madison himself"
    The error into which you had fallen may have been confirmed by a communication in the National Intelligencer2 some years ago, said to have been received through a respectable channel from a member of the Convention. That the communication was erroneous is certain; whether from misapprehension or misrecollection, uncertain."

    You mean like that you evolved from slime? or was it an amoeba? an ape? With absolutely NO scientific verification of Darwin, look whose talking.
    And since any school of evolution isn't atheist canon you illustrate the point I was making. An atheist can decide for themselves how live came to be, they can accept or reject any part of it - questioning is what they are supposed to do. Can you the virgin birth, Adam and Eve, even the word being created in a week? As you know there are many sects of Christianity that think you have to accept these and other tenets to 'really' be Christian.

    The Roman Empire fell because of its depravity, it rotted from within. That started long before Christianity was legal.
    And you have any solitary piece of evidence of this? What exactly was happening 'depravity wise' in Rome in at its end that wasn't happening at its beginning? Again, the cardinal difference was the rise of religious extremism, that is the only new depravity that showed up to herald its fall.

    1. Love and compassion? Absolutely! If you were hungry, I would feed you; naked, I would clothe you: injured, tend to your wounds. Love calls me to treat you as Christ would.

      He showed both love and compassion to the lost without affirming their immoral behavior, but calling them to repentance.

      I've read the DOI many times, it states where our rights come from, Our CREATOR, it also appeals to him for the rectitude of our intentions. Again, people can't appeal to a watchmaker God, who doesn't care nor involve himself in the affairs of man. I certainly believe the people who signed it entered into prayer before doing so.

      The Constitutional convention was opened with prayer.

      George Washington, remember him? After swearing on the Bible at his inauguration deliberately made a prayer a part of his first official act as President. Thomas Jefferson? Guess what? Did the same thing. James Madision? Ditto.

      As far as I know, every elected official in this country takes their oath on a Bible, not the Communist Manifesto, not the Origin of Species, not the writings of Thomas Paine. If you testify in court, you swear to tell the truth "so help me God".

      Yes, I can reject Christ and any part of the Bible I so choose. God didn't remove free will when I became A Christian. I follow Christ because I want to, because in His mercy and Grace, He has revealed Himself to me, I don't deserve it. I deserve Hell.
      I question all the time, doesn't mean I don't believe.

      There's not enough space on this page to give all the reasons Rome fell. When Constantine legalized Christianity, Rome was well on its way out. There are many History books out there that will attest to the causes of its demise. Actually, legalization corrupted the early church by bringing in people with no interest in Christ.

      Again, nice try=)

      Craig in Lacey

    2. Nice try? You don't even understand the issue - I never said their weren't Christians or those who mouthed Christianism at our nations founding. No one is saying that the Christian training that's available at these base is to be stopped. This is about YOUR denying all the other than Christian influences that are part of our nations founding. Diests (Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington), Quakers and Unitarians (who didn't believe in the Trinity and didn't think Jesus was the only path to salvation) and more.

      This is about someone complaining about religious freedom at American bases - all you've managed to do is demonstrate that freedom is in danger - from your side of the fence.

    3. Your freedoms not in danger from me, you may do as you please.

      I never claimed that there were no other influences in our nations founding, only that Christianity was the dominant force, has been since the pilgrims.

      Craig in Lacey


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