Thursday, November 15, 2012

Atheists Going After Billy Graham

With the Christmas season, we have come to expect the various atheist organizations to go after Mary and Joseph and baby Jesus and even the shepherds, but this year, they are going after Billy Graham as well.


The Freedom From Religion Foundation has filed a complaint with the IRS against the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.

They claim he has violated IRS rules. And they believe they have a solid case against him.

They say his "Vote Biblical Values" voter's guide is in violation. They also claim that during the month of October he published articles favorable to Romney.

The voter's guide was a typical guide which revealed the position of various candidates on biblical issues and values.

Rob Boston, with the Americans United for Separation of Church and State, also an atheist organization, says there are more complaints this year than in any other previous year. He says complaints have "sky rocketed."

He thinks Family Research Council and American Family Association is responsible.

Americans United have also filed their own claim against Church in the Valley in Leaky, Texas.

Why?

Well, the church put this message on their marquee sign out front:
"Vote for the Mormon, not the Muslim."
"The capitalist, not the communist."

Ironically more pastors preached sermons in violation of the ridiculous IRS rule this year than ever before and so far the IRS has ignored it. So far.

Every aspect of Christian expression will become fair game in the present cultural environment.

AA Hodge, a Princeton theologian saw this for what it is and said so out loud in 1887:
"The atheist doctrine is gaining currency, even among Christians, that an education provided by common should be entirely emptied of religious character. If every party in the state has the right of excluding from the public schools what ever he does not believe to be true, then he that believes most will must give way to him that believes least, and then he that believes least must give way to him that believes nothing, no matter in how small a minority the atheists or agnostics may be. On this scheme, if it is consistently and persistently carried out in all parts of the country, the United States system of national popular education will be the most efficient and wide instrument for the propagation of atheism which the world has ever seen."

Public education has been stripped of its Christian values roots. We are now experiencing a culture that wants any values related to Christianity stripped away.

Be Vigilant. Be Discerning. Be Prayerful. Be Active. Be Blessed.

24 comments:

  1. I guess we ought to start being offended at their anti God statements on bill boards and busses. Interesting, if they attempted to invaded the home church, that is not publice property but someone's home, a different outcome will surprisingly occur for them.

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    1. Groups making 'anti God statements on bill boards' are paying their taxes. That's all we are asking Bill Graham to do.

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    2. Billy Graham pays his taxes. If you want to tax churches , then of course churches would be allowed to promote political views in their sanctuaries, during the time they are housing the homeless, feeding the poor, caring for the sick in the hospitals accroess this land , supporting the elderly and a host of other tax exempt services they do .

      As a republican it would be great , as a person of faith i think its a wrong idea to use your church to promote political agendas. But if taxes are put upon church property and assets , then of course it would be their responsibility to voice a political opinion with what those taxes are used for , by who and who to vote for to help promote a better way .

      Carefull what you ak for .

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  2. "Every aspect of Christian expression will become fair game"

    No, Christians are absolutely free to express their religion. No one is challenging that. However, taxpayers don't want to subsidize it any longer.

    Keep your churches and knock yourselves out. But do it on your own dime.

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    1. Good point , I can see the potlocks inviting special speakers , all with a R by their name .

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  3. Dear Gary,

    Martin Luther put it something like this: I have a fear of public education, and it is this: that they will become the great gate way to hell unless the Scriptures reign paramount. Wow…is that not what we are seeing now. God have mercy.

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    1. I think we have seen the results of the dogma of the secularist , it is not the dogma of all secularist , its the culture of today . The athesist has no concept of the fact that their views are indoctrinated beliefs of this present culture . They have a religion all to themselves , it changes with the wind .

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  4. Grants Pass, OR
    We as Christians should not be surprised that these attacks are becoming more prevalent. And anyone of us who stands firm on our Biblical beliefs will be subject to these attacks as well; we need to stand firm in the Lord. And Pray for each other. While showing God's love to our enemies.

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  5. We need to get more aggressive against these atheists groups and file a lawsuit claiming "slander and discrmination" of freedom of religion which is unconstitutional.

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    1. No one is challenging your freedom of religion. We just want you to pay your own way.

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    2. We are paying taxes. Infact we are contributing to the government by paying our taxes and contributing to the Billy Graham Organization who's helping the starving, the victims of floods and hurricanes etc. via The Samaritan's Purse. What have you done? When and where have you helped? When have you comforted the sick and given food to the starving? If you have, how much have you given? Did you give sacrificially? Are your finances open to the public so they know how much of the money given goes to those who are in need? Billy Graham's organization is open to all. Check it out. WE ARE PAYING OUR OWN WAY AND MUCH MORE.

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    3. Some good organizations out there now are going against these God haters and they are winning the cases. Interesting the folks who want churches to pay their own way side with a political party that wants others to do it for them . Hypocrisy .

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    4. 5:00pm Nice try to blur this issue, but the laws are pretty clear about promoting one political view or other at taxpayer expense.

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    5. Taxpayer expense? Taxpayers don't pay the bills for churchs, parishoners do, they also don't pay for the sermons that are preached. They also have no say in what is preached per the 1st Amendment.

      Craig in Lacey

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    6. As long as they consume public services (city, county, state, national) and do not pay for these services via taxes, they are being subsidized by the rest of the taxpayers for a least that portion of their operation. In other words, everyone else pays a higher tax rate to pay for the public services the churches consume.

      If they want to maintain this subsidized status, then they can stick to the activities that were originally deemed tax-exempt (charity, worship) and avoid those that are not tax exempt (political influence).

      Taxing the churches would not affect their ability to preach anything they choose. I don't recall the 1st amendment guaranteeing taxpayer subsidy for churches.

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    7. 638 the laws are pretty clear ? really , Holder had informational meetings with Black church leaders before the election explaing the " pretty clear" lines about churches speaking to political issues .

      Sort of like Bill Clnton going to a Black Church and speaking to the issues before an election he was in , your allowed to speak to issues , but not allow the church to support one cnadidate over another . So we got churches speaking to the issues that are sided to a specfic candidate , but of course when it is done on the left , its considered informational .

      Your not concrned about separation of church and state , your concerned about republicans winning elections . Your being dishonest and its clearly seen .

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    8. 9:51 You're making a huge assumption that I condone these activities for my side but not yours.

      I don't condone them for either side while the church is subsidized.

      End the subsidies and have at it - for both sides.

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  6. Atheists,
    I heard they taste like chicken

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    1. Couldn't tell ya, like a lot 'em, I'm vegetarian...

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    2. Take #2

      Couldn't tell ya, unlike Republicans after Obama's win, we don't eat our own...

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    3. LOL, that's fun.......ny! Good one.

      Pastors have been able to preach against immorality since the beginning of our country, after the DOI and after the Constitutional Convention, the delegates attended services. One of the 1st acts of Congress was commissioning the printing of 20,000 Bibles for Native Americans. The Bible was recognized by our Founders as indispensable to good government. Our form of government is dependant on the biblical morals of its people, its wholly unfit for any other. Our pulpits have been lax and the people do what is right in their own eyes.

      As people have failed to heed the Gospel, we have suffered as individuals and as a country. Dem, Repub, Ind, black, white, poke-a-dots alike. Our country will be destroyed from without because it's crumbling from within.

      Blessed is that country whose God is the Lord!

      Craig in Lacey

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    4. Billy Graham is a true man of God, and that is why he is being persecuted. If it is not these men of God to speak up and say to vote your values, then who will? You will never here that said in the world. Billy Graham did not say who to vote for, he just said vote your values, and people of faith new who that would be without him saying a word. Thanks to Billy Graham for running the good race for Christ until the end, good and faithful servant. Bonnie in Roy

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  7. So called athiests fight against God so much that you know they believe in Him...if you really don't believe in HIm then why do you fight against Him so much. I don't fight against things I don't believe. There is no such thing as an athiest....I definitely do not believe in athiests and God definitely believes in so called athiests, after all He created them. Jesus loves us all so very, very, very much and he who believes in Him will have everlasting life in Heaven. We will all stand before God one day "EVERY knee will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord" they may not do it now but one day they will....no person can avoid it...and God will say "Enter in thou good and faithful servant" or "Depart from me I never knew you".....which one is it going to be for you? Because, make no mistake about it, you WILL stand before God. Followers of Christ know how the story ends and we are the ones that will be with Jesus...the good news is anyone can be if they accept Him...it really is not that hard.

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  8. Isn't this about the freedom of speech and encouraging people to vote their values??? I have many Christian friends who voted for Obama and they said that they voted based on 'their values'! These liberals need to find something better to chase after and stop wasting time chasing Christians. In the end, they will have to answer to God!

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