Friday, October 02, 2015

Oregon School Shooter "Singled Out Christians"

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A mass shooting occurred yesterday in Umpqua Community College, an Oregon community college in southern Oregon.

The New York Post and local sources are reporting that the shooter forced students to stand up and state their religion before shooting them.

As of this writing, authorities are confirming that 10 students are dead. The shooter is also dead.

As many as 10 were injured, 4 critically.

The Post and other local and national news sources are reporting that eyewitnesses say the shooter was singling out Christians.


The New York Post quotes a woman whose grandmother was inside a writing class in Synder Hall where a portion of the shooting took place.

She says, "The shooter lined people up, asking if they were Christians. If they said yes, he shot them in the head. If they said no or didn't answer, they were shot in the legs."

At this writing, the mainstream press---ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox are not reporting this aspect of the shooting.

Other news sources are, however, confirming that the shooter did indeed ask Christians to declare themselves.

However, I suspect the news industry will not widely publish the Christian aspect of this story, unless it becomes apparent they can't ignore it.

Kortney Moore, an 18 year old student who was also in the room, told Oregon's News Review he was indeed on the hunt for Christians.

The Oregonian newspaper and the New York Post are both reporting these accounts.

The Oregonian is also reporting that government officials found "some sort of race-related manifesto" before the crime.

Breitbart News is reporting, "A frustrated President Obama demanded change on gun control after the Oregon college shooting which grabbed the nation's attention Thursday."

The president said, "Our thoughts and prayers are not enough. It's not enough. It does not capture the heartache and grief and anger that we should feel and it does nothing to prevent this carnage from being inflicted somewhere else in America."

It's disappointing to hear the president marginalize and diminish the value of prayer. While prayer may not capture his anger, it certainly captures the attention and heart of God.

It's also disappointing to see the President of the United States politicizing this tragedy, while the bodies of sons and daughters are still being removed from the scene.

Could he not have waited 1 day?

Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin said last night he did not anticipate naming any of the victims for another 24 to 48 hours.

The president insisted that states with the most gun laws have fewer deaths from gun violence and even recommended draconian gun laws in other countries that severely restrict firearm ownership.

While Obama may not believe prayer is adequate, I was told last night that pastors and youth ministry leaders were almost immediately among the students who survived, praying with them and consoling and praying with those who lost family members. People and students were returning to the scene with their Bibles in hand.

The shooter was identified last night as Chris Harper Mercer.

USA Today reported last night that officials say Mercer was a local Oregon man. He was carrying up to 4 firearms, including 1 rifle. Investigators were interviewing his mother last night to try and determine what caused his rampage.

USA Today says Mercer is believed to have had some connection to the college. They also say authorities are trying to determine whether he specifically targeted victims, rather than engaging in random gunfire.

Much more will likely be learned about this throughout the day today and over the weekend.

I could help compare the president's angry response to comments made by both Mike Huckabee and Dr. Ben Carson in recent months.

Both have said we do not have a "gun" problem in America, we have a "sin" problem.

God help us.


20 comments:

  1. I think it's time that people are taught that if there is a man with a gun in a room with a lot of people and he is ordering people around, and his motive isn't robbery, then maybe it's time for everyone to rush him to overcome him. As soon as one person rushes, everyone else should move in too.

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    1. That is exactly what has happened in past similar circustances.....in the frey, the guys who rushed the shooter were shot but in most cases, survived. Standing there like an idiot is certainly NOT the best policy, but Christians have now been taught to be passive and not fight back against anything......just hope that the victim isn't you....otherwise, walk away and leave everybody else behind.....is this what we have become? If it's not our child being raped or given a rotten education, we Christians in America just take care of number one???????

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    2. Yes, training is important. The man who rushed the killer was a vet.

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  2. Instead of working to keep guns out of schools, I would much rather see politicians work to get the Bible back in schools. I think that makes much more sense, for it will be going against the real enemy. It's time for real politicians to stand up.

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  3. It is always interesting that when people die in car accidents everyday that are alcohol or speed or drug related, no one in the media or the President call for banning alcohol, drugs, or cars. Most college campuses are already gun free zones which make these students easy targets. President Obama has no problem supplying weapons to terrorist groups and sending drones to kill innocent people yet he would love to deny our right of self protection. I agree sin is the problem not guns . Spokane

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  4. We have not gone 7 days w/o a mass shooting since 2012. Enough is enough. Other countries have solved this and they have mentally sick people as well. It's a gun and ammunition access problem. The majority of americans want this fixed. I hope this one is the tipping point.

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  5. People have got to start being more aggressive when a shooting situation like this happens. throw chairs or desks at the shooter, and take him out. If you see someone with a gun, take him down and take it away. don't wait to see what happens.
    We're not hearing the Christian aspect of these shootings,because it wasn't a Christian doing the shooting.
    An investigation on the shooter needs to be done, to see if he is a muslim, or was converted to a muslim. I'll be he was.
    Instead of taking guns away, we should require everyone to have a gun, then there would be no shootings, and there would be zero crime rate. just like the town in texas that requires every citizen to carry a gun. their crime rate is zero.
    Barry obama is only specifying religious points about events that happen if they make Christians look bad or muslims look good.
    I want to make a comment on the syrian refugees that obama is wanting to bring to the U.S. I think that obama is building a private army of muslim terrorist and bringing them over as refugees. otherwise why is he only bringing healthy, young men, that should be staying and fighting for their country. when women and children should be refugees. I have contacted the website of our Military Joint Chiefs of Staff of the President, and asked them to check into it. to help protect our country.

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  6. People have got to start being more aggressive when a shooting situation like this happens. throw chairs or desks at the shooter, and take him out. If you see someone with a gun, take him down and take it away. don't wait to see what happens.
    We're not hearing the Christian aspect of these shootings,because it wasn't a Christian doing the shooting.
    An investigation on the shooter needs to be done, to see if he is a muslim, or was converted to a muslim. I'll be he was.
    Instead of taking guns away, we should require everyone to have a gun, then there would be no shootings, and there would be zero crime rate. just like the town in texas that requires every citizen to carry a gun. their crime rate is zero.
    Barry obama is only specifying religious points about events that happen if they make Christians look bad or muslims look good.
    I want to make a comment on the syrian refugees that obama is wanting to bring to the U.S. I think that obama is building a private army of muslim terrorist and bringing them over as refugees. otherwise why is he only bringing healthy, young men, that should be staying and fighting for their country. when women and children should be refugees. I have contacted the website of our Military Joint Chiefs of Staff of the President, and asked them to check into it. to help protect our country.

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  7. In 2011, 17 US citizens were killed by terrorism and over 11,000 in the US died from gun violence. And that was a pretty typical year.

    Please consider which is the bigger threat to you.

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  8. I wonder if anyone has done any studies to see whether or not killers like this ....
    have been recently and faithfully attending a Bible study and prayer group meetings, or faithfully attending Church, or are presently active in leading something in a church, or worship participation in a local church or writing songs for worship, or other things church related.

    Did this young man who did the shooting, have a Bible reading and prayer group at school, which he could have attended?

    Maybe it's time for some accountability at public schools. Shouldn't every school be required to promote the free exercise of religion, just as they promote sports such as basketball, football, or track?

    Football isn't even mentioned specifically in the constitution as far as I am aware of. Neither is basketball, yet schools often support the free exercise of those things.

    Maybe it's time for accountability. Maybe it's time for a new day.

    Some will say, "But that will never happen." , but it has nothing to do at all with if it would ever happen or not. That has nothing to do with it. How about doing something just because it's right?

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  9. I suppose this is the cost for a dysfunctional public school system....partly anyway,
    at least in part. I mean, this sort of thing has to tally up somewhere.

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  10. Maybe schools should have drills. Yes there is a time to duck and cover, but maybe there is also a time for everyone to rush together. Maybe a coach could simulate a situation, and when he blows the whistle, the drill is over, and the school could encourage prayer and Bible reading as an extra curricular activity.

    I'm thinking the football players might like this sort of drill.

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  11. It's a time to implement the constitution, not choke it.

    If I was a political cartoonist, I would like to draw a picture of the president wrestling and putting a choke hold on Uncle Sam who is holding a Bible in one hand and the constitution in the other. "Drop it!, Drop it!, Drop them both! Say Uncle!"...

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  12. I take it the president doesn't have much confidence in prayer.

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    1. He lives in the real world.

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    2. Likely being more material than spiritual.

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  13. Maybe some people have it wrong when they think if we get rid of the guns we will get rid of gun violence. Maybe if we get rid of the violence, we will get rid of guns.
    Let's have more Bible reading and prayer in schools and in government, and other places.

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  14. Let's thank God for the police who responded so quickly and did what they had to do. I wonder how many lives they saved.

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  15. I read a news report that said this killer was studying mass shooters. Better to study Jesus. It talked about him as being a loner and bitter, one who did better in small groups. A good small Bible reading and prayer group may have done him a lot of good. I wonder if there were those at the school. Sometimes people will get involved with things at a school rather than at other places where they don't usually go. Maybe if he was with a group who cared about things that cause distress, trouble, or occupy the mind, and look to Jesus for help, direction, and guidance....it may have done him good.

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  16. OK we've prayed enough for this one now. So now we just move on from this until the next mass shooting, and do nothing to prevent it.

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