Thursday, May 28, 2009

Same-Sex Marriage: "It's Inevitable"

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Those who gathered at Seattle's Westlake Park Tuesday evening to protest California's Court ruling, which upheld the will of the voters and the ban on same-sex marriage, were described as feeling the sting of defeat and a sense of disappointment by The Seattle Times.

Joe Mirabella, a Washington State community organizer who helped plan the event, told the Times he didn't see the California decision as a set back because of the significant political gains homosexuals have made recently.

He said the tide is turning. And regarding same-sex "marriage," he said, "It's inevitable."


There is a growing consensus in the homosexual community and even among some Christian leaders that it is a sure thing. In fact a Christian leader who had worked with many of us in these cultural issues told the Seattle press a couple of years ago that it was not a matter of "if" but "when" Washington would have same-sex marriage.

Others are calling the effort on Referendum 71 "stupid" with no chance to win.

Things change. Hillary Clinton was the inevitable Democratic Party nominee for President not so many months ago.

I was correctly quoted by the Times as saying that as the marriage issue continues to be the dominate cultural issue, it is going to force people to take a closer look at what marriage really is ---and is not.

Marriage is not about affirming a relationship between two (or more) people. It has always been about much more than that. It is not a measure of equality or fairness.

It is a unique and exceptional relationship that connects a man and a woman genetically to a child. How can that be altered or redefined?

Marriage is about the next generation. It is the cornerstone of every successful society in the history of the human race. Marriage between a man and a woman provides generational sustainability.

Homosexuality is not an identity. For generations it was identified as an act---"sodomy". Then it was upgraded to a condition---homosexuality. And finally it was further elevated to an identity equal in the minds of those who advanced it, to ethnicity.

The great advances that activists are counting on to carry them to national acceptance and redefinition of marriage have been built upon a false premise.

Homosexuality is not genetic and it is not equal to ethnicity. It cannot be honestly compared to the civil rights struggle of African Americans.

People generally rejected the act of sodomy, accommodated the "condition" of homosexuality and in recent years have been led to believe that to be tolerant and fair one must affirm the "identity." It is not an identity. At best it is a series of bad choices. At worst it is rebellion against the Creator and His natural law.

As people begin to take a closer look, and that has begun, at the real issues around marriage, it will become more and more clear why every major religion in the history of the world has condemned the practice of homosexuality and every successful culture has rejected it as a norm.

The favorability that the gay agenda has enjoyed recently, especially among the youth, toward so-called gay "marriage" may change as a more clear understanding emerges.

I do not personally believe the word "inevitable" best describes the effort to redefine and deconstruct marriage in America. Or in the State of Washington.

Gary Randall
Faith & Freedom

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  1. Well said - once again, Gary.

  2. Gary,

    I thought Larry wanted to change the wording on the ballot title to make the question more appealing for our cause.

    What happened to that? Is the judge looking at it tomorrow? How can we print petitions now....or is Larry dropping the change so we have more time.

  3. Please define what a “successful society” is. How does ours rate?
    Are same sex marriages responsible for the rates of divorce, domestic abuse, child abuse and neglect?

    I disagree with your reduction of marriage to breeding. Love and equality are vital aspects of marriage. Do you think children should grow up in a loveless home?

    Are the relationships between married couples who adopt kids less “unique and exceptional” than those who are “genetically connected” to their children? That’s what you just said. Do you mean that?

    Is heterosexuality the defining marker of your identity? It’s not mine, nor is it my lifestyle but simply one aspect of who I am, how I was born. If you are not going to reduce the identity of heterosexuals purely down to sexual orientation, what right do you have to do so for gays and lesbians?

    If you can’t accept marriage equality for same sex couples based on your religious beliefs I can respect that. But when there are so many committed long term relationships between same sex couples who have been successfully raising children and paying taxes and who are willing to adopt children who need a stable loving home – why spend so much of your time and energy raising money to prohibit this?

    We have a lot of serious problems in this world and all you can think about is what other adults do in their bedroom?

    Trust me, straight people cannot turn gay anymore than you can turn gay people straight.

    Please, save your money for feeding and sheltering hungry kids.

  4. Gary, thank you for including my quote in your blog post today. I certainly do believe that same-sex marriage is inevitable. Historically equality always prevails over inequality.

    With that said, clearly you are engaging me in a debate. I would be happy to debate you in public if you are interested.


    Joe Mirabella
    Washington State Community Organizer
    Join the Impact

  5. this thing is fun, you suck, no one wants to give money to this when schools are being closed all over washington state. GET REAL! - seattle

  6. Mike. Larry is dropping that so we can have more time. Last we heard.

    Faith and Freedom staff

  7. Your post was speaking only of "same-sex marriage"... Ref 71 does not give the word "marriage". You get to keep your word, loving couples get legal protections.

    Why all the hate?

  8. Joe. Gary quoted you. He did not ask for a debate. You may be taking the quote too seriously.

  9. Well Said, Annon. Just to add: Those of you concerned with living a Christ-centered life should go volunteer at a shelter, work with prisoners and give to the poor. Jesus said nothing about being Gay.

  10. Aww too bad, is Gary AFRAID of a debate. With the Almighty on his side, how could he lose? .......

  11. So should my marriage be nullified? I cannot procreate because of ovarian cancer. This is a problem that I could not control or stop, no matter how much faith I have, I have accepted that God has different plans for me. Regardless, my marriage is real, connected, and filled with love. Would you suggest that it is anything but since it is not a union tied together by a child? Your minimalistic views are offensive at best.

  12. First, regarding the premise that marriage is only about the next generation, there is nothing in the traditional Christian, Jewish, or Hindu marriage vows that refers to the couple's relationship to the next generation. All heterosexual couples, married or not, who are capable and willing to have children, are linked to the next generations. Should those who are incapable or unwilling to have children be banned from marrying, too? Yours is the false premise.

    Second, remember that the legislation in question is about the legal rights of domestic partners, not about children, and not about marriage. It applies to all such partnerships, same-sex as well as opposite sex. So you can't use an argument against same-sex marriage to deny civil rights to hetero- and homosexual domestic partners.

    Third, to say that homosexuality is, at best, a series of bad choices denies the experience of both homo- and heterosexuals. Ask yourself honestly, when did you make the "choice" to find women sexually attractive and not men? I didn't, and I'll bet you didn't either. If your experience was like mine, at a certain age you simply began to look at women with one set of eyes, and at men with another. If so, then isn't it conceivable that, for some people, it goes the other way?

    Finally, don't presume to know God's views on anything. Ordained minister or not, you are human, not God. He sent us Jesus, who taught humility, acceptance and forgiveness, not arrogance, discrimination and vengeance. Where, in any of his recorded teachnings, did Jesus condemn homosexuality?

    I urge you to reconsider your position and end this ill-informed and misdirected venture.

  13. For the record, no one ought to judge another's love as unworthy or be denounced for their choices provided they are within the range of human dignity and decency. I say all love, real love, the kind you live and die to protect until death tears it asunder, is a gift from God. Who am I to say who can love whom in the most sacred ways?
    That being said, I vote "no" to gay marriage.
    FACT: That vote is the position of the majority of Americans. Whenever that question has been put to a vote, gay marriage has not fared well, most recently and famously in California. It is activist judges who are overruling the will of the people and mocking the democratic process by those few people imposing it on an electorate that does not subscribe to it.
    FACT: Throughout history marriage has been a special relationship between males and females. The very act that consummates a marriage can only be performed by a male and female.
    FACT: Nature sees fit not to pass along the genetic codes or DNA of gay partners to the rest of the species. In other words gay couples cannot procreate by nature's fiat.
    FACT: There are cultures that we hail from in which homosexual behavior is a lifestyle, namely Ancient Greece and Rome. Is being gay always biology?
    FACT: Marriage is the foundation of every single stable society.
    FACT: All Americans are not treated equally and we see unequal treatment as an advantage.
    With all our emphasis on equality, inequality resides comfortably next to equality in America. For starters, we do not extend full rights to children in order to protect them. We give certain benefits to the elderly and disadvantaged like Medicare and Social Security to provide for their needs. We give vets, widows and orphans certain benefits not extended to all. We offer affirmative action breaks to minorities. In other words, we find unequal treatment more beneficial at times.
    So it is with gay marriage. We give married people special advantages/protection because it is in society's interest to do so.
    Making "being in love" the sole basis for defining marriage opens the door to any love match, polygamy (one husband, multiple wives), polyandry (one wife, multiple husbands) or whatever combo our fertile little human minds can concoct. Wherein is the precious equality gays demand if future courts deny the love matches of one group that deviates from the universally accepted definition of marriage while endorsing those of another? Wherein is societal stability if all manner of love match is deemed marriage? So our future, would we adopt gay marriage, holds polygamy and polyandry, minimally.
    The last major sex revolution was in the '60s. Trusting like babes in the woods in our newfound enlightenment, we laughed off as repressive and overly religious the need for fidelity, virginity, and the taboo of divorce. Decades later the fruits of that enlightenment have been epidemic levels of teen promiscuity, of teen pregnancy and of sexually transmitted disease. We have seen a dramatic rise in poverty for women and children. Children of single mothers are significantly more prone to drug abuse, criminal activity and problems in school. Clearly, this revolution has not been in the best interest of our society. Can we even begin to calculate the financial burden to our society that this irresponsibility has generated, never-mind the emotional cost to our children especially?
    Being humane and understanding of their special situation, all manner of rights and privileges are being extended to the gay community. But in the name of equality, we do not have to go so far as to jeopardize the institution that is key to our societal stability, marriage, by opening it to any union we fancy at the moment.
    It seems to me gay persons can wisely be as spiritually married as they wish just as much as straight people can foolishly be as free to denigrate the institution as they wish without any legal interventions.
    To preserve what little social stability we have left, say "no" to gay marriage.


    (It's still legal - and always God-honoring - to air messages like the following. See Ezekiel 3:18-19. In light of government backing of raunchy behavior (such offenders were even executed in early America!), maybe the separation we really need is the "separation of raunch and state"!)

    In Luke 17 in the New Testament, Jesus said that one of the big "signs" that will happen shortly before His return to earth as Judge will be a repeat of the "days of Lot" (see Genesis 19 for details). So gays are actually helping to fulfill this same worldwide "sign" (and making the Bible even more believable!) and thus hurrying up the return of the Judge! They are accomplishing what many preachers haven't accomplished! Gays couldn't have accomplished this by just coming out of closets into bedrooms. Instead, they invented new architecture - you know, closets opening on to Main Streets where little kids would be able to watch naked men having sex with each other at festivals in places like San Francisco (where their underground saint - San Andreas - may soon get a big jolt out of what's going on over his head!). Thanks, gays, for figuring out how to bring back our resurrected Saviour even quicker!

    [If you would care to learn about the depraved human "pigpen" that regularly occurs in Nancy Pelosi's district in California, Google "Zombietime" and click on "Up Your Alley Fair" in the left column. And to think - horrors - that she is only two levels away from being President!]

  15. I'm so sorry to see what the blog has become because of all the comments. The last comment made by Anonymous at 3:49 PM on May 28th shows exactly what Homosexuals will bring us to and what they are like. That is called making our people, our children, our nation perverted.
    To Homosexuals: Does some one really has to define to you how your body works? And what certain parts of it are made for? Everybody knows that an anus is made for waste to come out and nothing to come into it. We have to wash our hands thoroughly once we use the rest room to get rid of the germs and bacteria, and you want to go into that bacteria and bring it out. Your men abandoned the natural function of the woman and women natural function for that which is unnatural. Therefore you will bring sickness and disease upon yourself, your body will be your judge. You are abandoning the clean mountain water to drink out of the sewage, you will be sick from it and you will die from it. Forgive me if I don't join you and neither let my children join you.
    What you practice is unclean, unsafe, unnatural, and never will be not matter how many ways you find to defend it. It is your lust, and you dishonor your bodies. However if you chose to live a dangerous, chaotic, disordered life, I can't stop you and I won't unless you'd will it, but I will not drink the cup that you drink and God forbid our nation to drink out of that cup!


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